Just something sort of Janecek y quickly improvised in Zebra using a patch from Menno's new Zebra Food bank:
Duo for violin
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 37#3380137
Duo for violin
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- KVRAF
- 37503 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- KVRAF
- 3002 posts since 24 Nov, 2003 from Heidelberg&Hamburg
Beautiful. Just the right music for the moment here, thanks very much 
. The lower parts sound as if a (Zebra)-cello to it would be fine too! Indeed there are some earlier Janacek pieces that I didn't hear for a longer time, a suite for strings (1877) for example. Thanks for sharing!
. The lower parts sound as if a (Zebra)-cello to it would be fine too! Indeed there are some earlier Janacek pieces that I didn't hear for a longer time, a suite for strings (1877) for example. Thanks for sharing!-
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 37503 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Menno did a really great Cello too - will probably do a piece using that too (he also did a very nice quartet)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 37503 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
It's not really very Janacek - for some reason I just kept thinking of Intimate Letters as I was listening to it.
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- KVRist
- 394 posts since 3 Oct, 2008 from lab
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- KVRian
- 1488 posts since 7 Jan, 2004
The basic sound is quite close to real violin! The details, envelopes, modulation etc. and the playing are not which makes it (still) sound very unnatural.
The more I hang around at KVR the less music I make.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 37503 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Well maybe in some respects but who cares? - I'm not obsessively concerned with accuracy in a boring technical sense - only expression.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 37503 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
So's your facemiklosny wrote:sounds crappy
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- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Melbourne, Australia
Actually, it sounds great ... more power to Zebra!!!! Thanks for sharing ...
Looking forward to going through the patches from Menno
Peace,
Andy.
Looking forward to going through the patches from Menno
Peace,
Andy.
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- Banned
- 1240 posts since 28 May, 2007
Sry but the critique of Timfonie is with good cause and constructive !aMUSEd wrote:Well maybe in some respects but who cares? - I'm not obsessively concerned with accuracy in a boring technical sense ...
Expression and emotion in music is related directly to the technique of the musician and his ability to use this technique as a means to an end !
WHICHaMUSEd wrote:... only expression.
Without the deepest emotions and pictures in mind and the emotional state of the musician there are no articulation, no dynamics, no phrasing, no bows, no emotions, no expression ... no soul ... in short BOREDOM !
And that was the first thought I had while listening to the tune ... boring ...
If you mean by technical sense the ability of computers nowadays to translate zeros and ones in sounds, so it's in the nature of things, that this generated sounds could come as near as possible to the original nature sounds, but as long as a plugin doesn't provide different emotional states end expressions as result what comes to your ear (which would go yet beyond the scope both of samples size and of processing power and disc streaming), a sample based composition will sound in comparison to a human (well-)played performance like a robo-vacuum cleaner plays some programmed zeros and ones instead of getting on the nerves of the householder
On the other side I appreciate more your composition as I know how quick one can be lost in the rules of counterpoint, but if I get asked here how I programmed my (handplayed) pianoparts, I wished the "old-school" of playing music would be more appreciated here ! Of course as well in 2009 there will be a need of human beings in music and don't get me wrong ... I love the possibilitys of samples and electronics and plugins etc., but if one is so much in this world that you doesn't recognize and think about a human played phrase anymore and all is cpu and all is midi and all is programming, the focus shifted too far away I guess !
It's by all means more satisfying to spend that much time with a real instrument and reach (by hard work) an expressive level, which gives you the abillity to touch others with your infinite-core-soul
I should like to add that I really like your artwork (on your website) and there too I see my perspective approved:
Your digital artwork is nice, but in your "handmade" artwork my eye of a painter discover SOUL and DEEPNESS and MULTIDIMENSIONALITY !
This will be for all times reserved to human arts
Merry christmas to you !
Drumity
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 37503 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Thankyou - I just found it fun to play and thought I'd share it. The expression was in how I felt while playing it but I'm not interested in analysing it or anything. I liked the patch and as I was playing the music emerged but I really wasn't interested in trying to sound 100% "realistic" or applying some such rules of composition and all that - not that I'm completely ignorant of these things but I don't have any pretensions to be what I'm not. I don't see myself as a great composer or musician but I enjoy it and sometimes I hope that some of that can be shared by others - a connection of sorts. So it's really a sort of "take me as I come" deal for me. Thanks for your kind words and comments
ps your are right about the digital artwork - I have said many times these were just experiments really to see what I could do but it's in the physical media that my real passion is displayed.
ps your are right about the digital artwork - I have said many times these were just experiments really to see what I could do but it's in the physical media that my real passion is displayed.