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teomi · Post by **teomi** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:07 pm

Any ideas?

Thanks,
E.

dougsyo · Post by **dougsyo** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:31 pm

Four I know of:

Mellotronix (seven sounds from HollowSun in Dashsnd format for Eve, convertible to other formats with EXSC).
M-Tron and M-Tron Pro (GMedia)
Squids' Tron Collection (ST2 format, requires ST2)
Sampletron (ST2 format with included player)

There is some overlap between the last two, but not total. Also, if you have ST2 player, you can get individual sounds from Squids' Tron from esoundz' website.

I have Mellotronix, the demo sounds from Sampletron, and a different demo set that Squids bundled into a group buy. I'm probably going to pick up some of the Chamberlain sounds from Squids' Tron, but I don't need all of them.

Doug

taijiguy · Post by **taijiguy** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:33 am

For commercial libraries, the Pinder CD is considered the professional standard. It contains tuned and untuned, unlooped, unprocessed versions of Mellotron lead, rhythms and fills, and Chamberlin samples. The CD is in Akai format, but I was able to rip out the WAV files with Halion. A little expensive, but worth every yuan.

http://www.mellotron.com/cdlist.htm

But mine are free.

http://www.leisureland.us/audio/mellotr ... amples.htm

tq · Post by tq » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:33 am

taijiguy wrote:For commercial libraries, the Pinder CD is considered the professional standard. It contains tuned and untuned, unlooped, unprocessed versions of Mellotron lead, rhythms and fills, and Chamberlin samples. The CD is in Akai format, but I was able to rip out the WAV files with Halion. A little expensive, but worth every yuan.

I think this one is not only a little expensive, but seems to be *too expensive* when compared to the current competition ($199...!). The M-Tron Pro is actually cheaper than this disc, features nearly 200 instruments with 3.5 Gig sample content, sounds fabulous, and offers a few more tricks than an original Mellotron...

I actually wonder how long this disc has been around? In the description, it recommends Akai, Kurzweil, EMU, Ensonig ASR-10, Sample Cell and Gigasampler, and the copyright on the disc dates to 1994. And the sounds consist of 16 MB AKAI banks... Hm...

That does not mean that it sounds bad - I actually haven't tried it - but I am just wondering how this stands up to the current competition in the field of M-Tron sounds, and whether the price is still acceptable?

olepro · Post by **olepro** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:58 am

tq wrote:
taijiguy wrote:For commercial libraries, the Pinder CD is considered the professional standard. It contains tuned and untuned, unlooped, unprocessed versions of Mellotron lead, rhythms and fills, and Chamberlin samples. The CD is in Akai format, but I was able to rip out the WAV files with Halion. A little expensive, but worth every yuan.
I think this one is not only a little expensive, but seems to be *too expensive* when compared to the current competition ($199...!). The M-Tron Pro is actually cheaper than this disc, features nearly 200 instruments with 3.5 Gig sample content, sounds fabulous, and offers a few more tricks than an original Mellotron...

I actually wonder how long this disc has been around? In the description, it recommends Akai, Kurzweil, EMU, Ensonig ASR-10, Sample Cell and Gigasampler, and the copyright on the disc dates to 1994. And the sounds consist of 16 MB AKAI banks... Hm...

That does not mean that it sounds bad - I actually haven't tried it - but I am just wondering how this stands up to the current competition in the field of M-Tron sounds, and whether the price is still acceptable?

The 16 Mb is for each patch so a quick calculation brings me to 544 Mb mellotron samples, not bad i would say.

tq · Post by tq » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:18 am

The M-Tron Pro is still roughly six times the size. I know, size doesn't always matter

, but I own the M-Tron Pro, and it sounds perfect. I can't imagine what this disc offers that M-Tron Pro doesn' offer (except you need AKAI format)...?

olepro · Post by **olepro** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:51 am

tq wrote:The M-Tron Pro is still roughly six times the size. I know, size doesn't always matter , but I own the M-Tron Pro, and it sounds perfect. I can't imagine what this disc offers that M-Tron Pro doesn' offer (except you need AKAI format)...?

Yep, i know.... cause i have M-Tron Pro myself and it IS great.
It just sounded like the whole akai library was 16 Mb and that's untrue

tq · Post by tq » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:41 am

Oops, sorry, that wasn't what I implied (not a native speaker here). 16 MB would be pretty small for a sample library...

oddgrooves · Post by **oddgrooves** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:47 am

I'm VERY happy with Sampletron.

Per

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:51 am

Here's a good thing to get if you're into Mellotrons and Chamberlins: http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=1934

The Pinder CD had great stuff on it. Pity it is all sampled at 22k sampling rate though. 44.1 is the minimum anything should be sampled in my opinion (even if the original material's frequency response didn't go above 8k... the rate at which you sample still affects the quality and you can often hear aliasing or digital garble in the high end from sample rates that are as low as this). It'd be nice if that CD was updated to 44.1 I would buy it.

I used to own Pinder's Chamberlin M4 btw. Also Tony Clarke once shopped my band's demo to labels and was going to release an album on his indy label he was doing. Never happened though. Nice guy (Moody Blues producer). Pinder is cool too. "Breathe Deep". I don't know how much he actually had to do with that library though apart from his name being on it. Appropriate name though. Nights in White Satinnnnnnnnnnn.

Posts are written, never meaning to submit.

Good luck! M-Tron Pro seems good too. I have the regular M-Tron and that has a lot of nice stuff. Different from SampleTron (that I made the sounds for) so best would be to buy both. If you love these kind of sounds I don't see why you'd deprive yourself of any of them especially when they are so much cheaper than trying to find a vintage one.

DavidRadi2 · Post by **DavidRadi2** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:56 am

I liked Sampletron bit more than M-Tron because of more editing possibilities, but now with M-Tron Pro, I'm not sure...If you're able to demo them, do it...

exxxy · Post by **exxxy** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:20 pm

treat yourself to m-tron pro

buscemi · Post by **buscemi** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:26 pm

SampleTron works very well. If you value ease of use and quickly getting a great sound, give it a whirl. M-Tron Pro has a great sound too and is a different yet similar tool. As always, my suggestion is... buy both!

The Talentmaker loops in SampleTron are outstanding. The ultimate in lo-fi WTF kind of sound.

taijiguy · Post by **taijiguy** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:43 pm

REAL Mellotron fanatics have them all.

buscemi · Post by **buscemi** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:09 pm

taijiguy wrote:REAL Mellotron fanatics have them all.

I will have yours soon. Have to get a "round tuit" - those are pesky things that I never seem to get my hands on.

I'm not confident SampleTank will import them easily (without crashing) and only have Halion Player not full so that's my excuse for now.

What is the best Mellotron sample library