Thanks for that, btw here are the links incase anyone is interested.thespecialist wrote: Lately there was a thread on both the Zebra and Sylenth forum, to recreate the 'Overture' patch from the Virus.
I'm guessing you don't have sylenth1? Just a guess, but I think it would take someone quite unfamiliar with the sound to say that. Alchemy's VA isn't bad, but fairly standard sound-wise. (I own and love Alchemy btw). But Sylenth1 has a special analog sound that you can most often not duplicate using Alchemy, or any other synth for that matter.olepro wrote:Again wrong.kritikon wrote:Buy them both, because they're completely and utterly different synths aimed at different markets and with different sounds targeted. Personally I think it's a weird either/or question - I can't imagine 2 more disparate synths.
The VA part of Alchemy can do all that Sylenth can do and then more.
The VA synth structure in the two syths is very similar.
The main difference is that Alchemy has all the sample manipulation besides the VA part.
Maybe not directly but you can use two *saw* oscillators and modulate the phase of one them.MitchK1989 wrote:Alchemy is miles ahead of sylenth, which doesn't even have PWM.
Are you using a good soundcard ? It really doesn't have to be expensive, a simple EMU 0202 costs $100 and has great sound. Then, get a good pair of monitors or if you cant' afford them, a good headphone, that doesn't have to be too expensive either (for example, an AKG K271-MKII costs around $200).
Then, listen again.
Are you guys serious?Are you monitoring on laptop speakers?
Of course, no need to get all upsetoriginal flipper wrote:It's MY OPINION!
Just thought you might be on bad hardware like an onboard soundcard and/or had everything connected to some standard stereo set. You'd miss out on all the rich, subtle details Sylenth1 brings to the table and why most people love it so much.
I'd like to hear the two synths, Mopho and Sylenth, together in a track if you're up to posting one, that would be very interesting! And a description of how you went about mixing it.filterfilter wrote:
I own DSI Mopho, complete analog signal path.
Sylenth was the first plugin that did sound "alive", it can produce so wonderful basses. Few other plugins do so. Terratec Komplexer is also very good. Nowadays we see a feature-war, new synths with high modulation capabilities and so on, but I don't need this. Ok, when i listen to it I think: sounds interesting, but I don't need it for making a good song! Sylenth delivers good lead and bass sounds in superior quality, it is simple and fast, and this is what I need!
cheers
Interesting! Good programming.yellowfever wrote:Thanks for that mate; good examples. I think all 3 patches sound pretty awesome. A touch more bassiness to the Sylenth perhaps? I personally prefer synths you can 'dirty up' a bit, so maybe I'll invest in the Sylenth. Thanks for your help.thespecialist wrote:Lately there was a thread on both the Zebra and Sylenth forum, to recreate the 'Overture' patch from the Virus. Here are the results:yellowfever wrote: how does the Sylenth compare against the Virus?
Thanks.
(first Virus, then Zebra)
http://share.uci-gaming.net/Rat41/Klang ... erture.mp3
(first Virus, then Sylenth)
http://www.lennardigital.com/files/temp ... lenth1.mp3
Judge for yourself. In my opinion, they both come very close and they both sound awesome. However, I think that the Sylenth1 comes closer. That doesn't mean it sounds better than the Zebra, in fact, one could argue that he likes the Zebra example even more than the Virus, that's totally personal taste, but there's something 'Zebra-ish' about the sound, something less 'sharp' or more 'polished' maybe than the Virus. I think that's the main strength of Sylenth, it can sound a bit more 'raw'.
So if your goal is to emulate the Virus, I think there's no better synth than Sylenth.
+1 on Rhino..I agree good synth!Klemperer wrote:With all the information you gave, and stuff you already have, I'd personally say buy none. I tend to disagree too to the opinion Kritikon has about Sylenth. Clearly you can do more with Alchemy, but whatever music you make, Sylenth is not just a dance-synthie. These things depend on you, the musician.
I resisted to buy both synths, as I already own Reaktor/Cameleon5000/Rhino2/KarmaFX/Xphraze and more. I once suffered from KVR-disease too (buy everything spontaneously, and don't miss any group buy. For sure Alchemy is a superb machine, but I personally make less good music if I buy too much. Of course for anyone who doesn't own Rhino2, that's another thing. Nobody besides mac-people should be without one
Already had it's place in some soundtracks...+2 Totally agree with you!original flipper wrote:HI
Have a good listen to a variety of similar priced synths (Surge, Albino, Blue, Predator, FM8 ...) and honestly tell me that Sylenth has any real character (up against them) and I will be surprised - by character I mean the basic sound that appears to be exhibited in the presets.
I cannot for the life of me hear anything remotely interesting with Sylenth - - I hate to say it, but even as freeware I wouldn't use it.
For some reason I think the synth has picked up a level of interest here and it has perpetuated into something that is far greater than the sum of it's parts (the synth).
But it's a free world - if you like it go buy it.
Flipper.
I agree with him...and I am monitoring on $5000 studio monitors???djanthonyw wrote:Are you monitoring on laptop speakers?original flipper wrote:HI
Have a good listen to a variety of similar priced synths (Surge, Albino, Blue, Predator, FM8 ...) and honestly tell me that Sylenth has any real character (up against them) and I will be surprised - by character I mean the basic sound that appears to be exhibited in the presets.
I cannot for the life of me hear anything remotely interesting with Sylenth - - I hate to say it, but even as freeware I wouldn't use it.
For some reason I think the synth has picked up a level of interest here and it has perpetuated into something that is far greater than the sum of it's parts (the synth).
But it's a free world - if you like it go buy it.
Flipper.
...I think that it's probably a matter of taste at the end...when it comes down to inspiration and music... Yeah more like the old keys...more mid bass and less overtones in the Sylenth patch...which often ends up being cut at mix or masteringthespecialist wrote:Lately there was a thread on both the Zebra and Sylenth forum, to recreate the 'Overture' patch from the Virus. Here are the results:yellowfever wrote: how does the Sylenth compare against the Virus?
Thanks.
(first Virus, then Zebra)
http://share.uci-gaming.net/Rat41/Klang ... erture.mp3
(first Virus, then Sylenth)
http://www.lennardigital.com/files/temp ... lenth1.mp3
Judge for yourself. In my opinion, they both come very close and they both sound awesome. However, I think that the Sylenth1 comes closer. That doesn't mean it sounds better than the Zebra, in fact, one could argue that he likes the Zebra example even more than the Virus, that's totally personal taste, but there's something 'Zebra-ish' about the sound, something less 'sharp' or more 'polished' maybe than the Virus. I think that's the main strength of Sylenth, it can sound a bit more 'raw'.
So if your goal is to emulate the Virus, I think there's no better synth than Sylenth.
+1. This was an easy one for me. I went for Alchemy. - Orbit-50C-note wrote:If you own Cameleon 5000 and can only purchase one then you have a much tougher decision.
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