How do I make my digital recordings colder?
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- KVRist
- 466 posts since 14 Nov, 2003
Haven't you exchanged the mains cord in your hifi by chance?hibidy wrote:I wondered about why my stuff sounded colder lately, now I know it's the freakin' frosty weather we've had..........due to global warming of course.
Those thicker obviously provide per second more voltage which is cold by its nature (see wikipedia for Tao or ask at your local audiophile shop)
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Dean Aka Nekro Dean Aka Nekro https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=162100 - KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
Cheers man - i dont really do electronic stuff myself and am lame when it comes to synthesis (however i have just recently started to take an interest after many years of guitar playing and a few less engineering) and the bell like sounds are top of the 'to program/learn' list.
It is a good topic i agree and im going to keep a keen eye on this and join in if/when/where i can.
Maybe we will end up with a pack of samples/examples out of it with your silverbell being the start and others put in? Along with how they achieved/reached the sound also
Dean
It is a good topic i agree and im going to keep a keen eye on this and join in if/when/where i can.
Maybe we will end up with a pack of samples/examples out of it with your silverbell being the start and others put in? Along with how they achieved/reached the sound also
Dean
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Guitarist/GP, one of those mags actually reviewed a boutique power cord for like 150bucks? I just laughed and thought of KVR!TOTAL wrote:Haven't you exchanged the mains cord in your hifi by chance?hibidy wrote:I wondered about why my stuff sounded colder lately, now I know it's the freakin' frosty weather we've had..........due to global warming of course.
Those thicker obviously provide per second more voltage which is cold by its nature (see wikipedia for Tao or ask at your local audiophile shop)
fact is though....I give short consideration to buying that before giving up my pan-a-thon of waves meters/center-er thingamado
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- Banned
- 239 posts since 14 May, 2008
i think to make stuff colder u can kill some of the midrange, i find liek 1-5 khz or so makes things sound warm, probably closer towards th ebottom than the top. also, what type of music ar you making?
i make electronic music, i have made a song before which reminds me of an ice cave liek ur talkign about. uh bascially i think liek, u could put some icy pads underneath, liek using cold flavored (lmao) pads and anythign else that sounds cold into ur muasic will make it soudn colder. also quantize if you can to make thigns soudn more mechanical, also i find htat if u have a really full-sounding song with instruments takign up all the space it will soudn warmer, for colder osund, its usually better to use shorter-sparser sounds and add reverb to them and use space between the sounds so you can hear it extend out like an empty space. use liek big hall reverb, probably less damping is better sinc high frequncies = cold, also try using lower diffusion settingsa and eq out the bottom end., or just the opposite and make them really dry.
my formula for a cold soung woudl be a real deep lowpassed bass w. most highs cut out, and then a quite high pitched, liek c4 and above lead sound with a "cold" tone and a short envelope. laveing lots of space and using reverb as i ha v described.
also i think distortion makes thign soudn warmer, so dont use too mcuh of that, but if u must, keep it more high-range and tinny/squealy than in the midragne.
i make electronic music, i have made a song before which reminds me of an ice cave liek ur talkign about. uh bascially i think liek, u could put some icy pads underneath, liek using cold flavored (lmao) pads and anythign else that sounds cold into ur muasic will make it soudn colder. also quantize if you can to make thigns soudn more mechanical, also i find htat if u have a really full-sounding song with instruments takign up all the space it will soudn warmer, for colder osund, its usually better to use shorter-sparser sounds and add reverb to them and use space between the sounds so you can hear it extend out like an empty space. use liek big hall reverb, probably less damping is better sinc high frequncies = cold, also try using lower diffusion settingsa and eq out the bottom end., or just the opposite and make them really dry.
my formula for a cold soung woudl be a real deep lowpassed bass w. most highs cut out, and then a quite high pitched, liek c4 and above lead sound with a "cold" tone and a short envelope. laveing lots of space and using reverb as i ha v described.
also i think distortion makes thign soudn warmer, so dont use too mcuh of that, but if u must, keep it more high-range and tinny/squealy than in the midragne.
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- KVRAF
- 3191 posts since 20 Sep, 2004 from Atlanta
ya. quite the poor man's Ultimate NullifierMeffy wrote:DANGER, Will Robinson! DO NOT DO THIS! You could rip a hole in the samplerate-bitdepth continuum that will expand forever, consuming all digital music in the Universe.eduardo_b wrote:Reverse the polarity on any warming plug-in.
(but at first blush, it *would* seem the easiest solution!)
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- KVRist
- 466 posts since 14 Nov, 2003
hibidy wrote:Guitarist/GP, one of those mags actually reviewed a boutique power cord for like 150bucks? I just laughed and thought of KVR!TOTAL wrote:Haven't you exchanged the mains cord in your hifi by chance?hibidy wrote:I wondered about why my stuff sounded colder lately, now I know it's the freakin' frosty weather we've had..........due to global warming of course.
Those thicker obviously provide per second more voltage which is cold by its nature (see wikipedia for Tao or ask at your local audiophile shop)
fact is though....I give short consideration to buying that before giving up my pan-a-thon of waves meters/center-er thingamado
With such cords Resistance is futile. Only think where you want them to take you.
For definitely warm sound, buy ones with ruby (element of fire).
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- Banned
- 239 posts since 14 May, 2008
i think so many peopel are so full of shit with their hardware tales.it cracks me the f**k up when people ask how to achieve a cerain sound in their music an dpeopel tell them to buy some stupid ass cord. that cord aint gonna do SHIT! for you, exept maybe make you delude yourself into beliveing yoru music soudns any better because you jsut spent $150.
funny story, i know this kid who bought a fancy guitar for 2500 bux, and at my school we were having a recording session and he was playing in the band, and my recodign teacher all the sudden said, hey whats up w. that guitar? that tone sounds really wierd!
i was liek heheheheheheh, u know, w. all the effects and everythign else that makes up the music, i coudl get better tone w. my 80 doller yamaha. so much for peopel thinking they can buy their way into makign good music. this kid just sucks at setting up his settings, lol, his money isnt gonna get him shit, and it goes the same for mixing
funny story, i know this kid who bought a fancy guitar for 2500 bux, and at my school we were having a recording session and he was playing in the band, and my recodign teacher all the sudden said, hey whats up w. that guitar? that tone sounds really wierd!
i was liek heheheheheheh, u know, w. all the effects and everythign else that makes up the music, i coudl get better tone w. my 80 doller yamaha. so much for peopel thinking they can buy their way into makign good music. this kid just sucks at setting up his settings, lol, his money isnt gonna get him shit, and it goes the same for mixing
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- KVRist
- 466 posts since 14 Nov, 2003
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- KVRAF
- 2175 posts since 10 Mar, 2006
Use softsynths especially Gladiator.afreshcupofjoe wrote:Hi,
How do I make my digital recordings colder? They are just too warm for my tastes. I've tried big icy reverbs like glaceverb, but it's just not cold enough. I want it to feel like sleeping in an ice cave when listening to my music. My drums need to sound like icicles gouging your ears out. Compression just makes them sound fat and warm. Can anyone help me out?
Thank you in advance.
Digital sound, great 'icicle' presets.
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- KVRian
- 1048 posts since 16 Oct, 2008
Well let's hear an example!HunterKiller wrote:Use softsynths especially Gladiator.afreshcupofjoe wrote:Hi,
How do I make my digital recordings colder? They are just too warm for my tastes. I've tried big icy reverbs like glaceverb, but it's just not cold enough. I want it to feel like sleeping in an ice cave when listening to my music. My drums need to sound like icicles gouging your ears out. Compression just makes them sound fat and warm. Can anyone help me out?
Thank you in advance.
Digital sound, great 'icicle' presets.
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- KVRist
- 410 posts since 29 Jul, 2003
how to make songs colder?? Simple really.
Just take some of your
replies to a few of the WTF posts and use them as lyrics.
Voila! Instant coldness
Just take some of your
replies to a few of the WTF posts and use them as lyrics.Voila! Instant coldness
Want to change your additive synth into an addictive one? You just need 5000 Cs!
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- KVRAF
- 2285 posts since 20 Dec, 2002 from The Benighted States of Trumpistan
+1... after all, audiophiles can't tell the difference between Monster Cable and coat hangers.My spies inform me that Audio Gnostic wrote:i think so many peopel are so full of shit with their hardware tales.it cracks me the f**k up when people ask how to achieve a cerain sound in their music an dpeopel tell them to buy some stupid ass cord. that cord aint gonna do SHIT! for you, exept maybe make you delude yourself into beliveing yoru music soudns any better because you jsut spent $150.
Then again, a cable with no shielding -- say, a Monster 100 -- is noisy as hell, and does make a difference.
Wait... loot _then_ burn? D'oh!
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- KVRAF
- 7578 posts since 17 Feb, 2005
Actually the OP's comment on glaceverb is one of my methods to get a cold brittle sound. I can't believe that one is free, only because it was made in synthedit (or at least I wouldn't buy it).
When it's a cold sound your after, try jacking up the cymbals with a compression/gate chain. The high-frequency non-tonality makes it sound harsh, kinda like the sound of an ice cavern was inflicted upon it. But you got rid of the echo to suit your needs. Then take a moment to reflect on how cold it is.
And whoever said to cut 1-5khz is on task. 7-10khz must be the dominant range for cold sounds. Remember, it's the non-tonality that counts, because any pure and harmonic tones in this range are going to say toasty.
When it's a cold sound your after, try jacking up the cymbals with a compression/gate chain. The high-frequency non-tonality makes it sound harsh, kinda like the sound of an ice cavern was inflicted upon it. But you got rid of the echo to suit your needs. Then take a moment to reflect on how cold it is.
And whoever said to cut 1-5khz is on task. 7-10khz must be the dominant range for cold sounds. Remember, it's the non-tonality that counts, because any pure and harmonic tones in this range are going to say toasty.
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- KVRAF
- 2975 posts since 18 Sep, 2006 from Rosehill Cemetery
http://www.bigfishaudio.com/4DCGI/detail.html?1614afreshcupofjoe wrote:Hi,
How do I make my digital recordings colder? They are just too warm for my tastes. I've tried big icy reverbs like glaceverb, but it's just not cold enough. I want it to feel like sleeping in an ice cave when listening to my music. My drums need to sound like icicles gouging your ears out. Compression just makes them sound fat and warm. Can anyone help me out?
Thank you in advance.
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