New updates v2. - Coming 15th January: energyXT 2.5

[SWTrex]

hmm it says on the website you can draw automation - is this a new addition? I've never been able to do that.

That must refer to the alt-Left Mouse Click feature which draws in the automation bars in an automation lane. It's been there awhile.

I can sweep over bars for velocity and change them (though that's not really automation) but I was thinking of drawing envelopes (like with a pencil tool).

If automation = VST automation, you're right - there's no way to draw that I see. (I was thinking that automation = midi CC).

SWTrex

[plastique]

I also share the feeling that I can't help but think if not jorgen sold the whole thing to someone else. If this all doesn't smell like a sell-out, I don't know. I first thought Behringer just made some deals, but maybe there's more behind it. New website, new CEO, all that weird flare around xt-software, no communication, software left in poor quality across all platforms, no response to bug reports, so untypical compared to the xt1 days ...
But that former marketing dude from ext said that jorgen is at NAMM, so that would speak against that Hope he doesn't make a (complete) tool out of himself there.

But anyway, only my useless 1.5 cents, on my transit through this forum

[Baxter]

A lot of times, when these small software companies get bought out, they have a non-disclosure agreement with the new owners. The old guy just disappears into the darkness without a word. Just vanishes. I wouldn't be surprised if that is what has happened. The biggest surprise for me is that after all of these years I end up dumping everything else and going with Acid Pro!! I never would have believed it! I really love version 7 of Acid Pro, so I guess that is how it ends up for me. goodbye Cubase, goodbye Reaper, goodbye eXT. Hello, Acid Pro! I can still use 1.4 for wrapping and modular stuff, it seems pretty stable for that kind of stuff. Maybe some day someone will resume development.

Baxter

[tjvigil66]

I also share the feeling that I can't help but think if not jorgen sold the whole thing to someone else. If this all doesn't smell like a sell-out, I don't know. I first thought Behringer just made some deals, but maybe there's more behind it. New website, new CEO, all that weird flare around xt-software, no communication, software left in poor quality across all platforms, no response to bug reports, so untypical compared to the xt1 days ...
But that former marketing dude from ext said that jorgen is at NAMM, so that would speak against that Hope he doesn't make a (complete) tool out of himself there.

But anyway, only my useless 1.5 cents, on my transit through this forum

The current circumstances surrounding eXT leave me with the same feeling I had just before Phrazor was killed off by NI.

[engine]

hmm it says on the website you can draw automation - is this a new addition? I've never been able to do that.

That must refer to the alt-Left Mouse Click feature which draws in the automation bars in an automation lane. It's been there awhile.

I can sweep over bars for velocity and change them (though that's not really automation) but I was thinking of drawing envelopes (like with a pencil tool).

If automation = VST automation, you're right - there's no way to draw that I see. (I was thinking that automation = midi CC).

SWTrex

maybe some misunderstanding? ... due to the language barrier.

[slovak]

Like 2.0 did 1.4 did 1.35 did 1.0 did .what it is was before that...

Jorgen keeps making great apps. !!!
I still hate loosing key things I like in previous versions.
(this always seems to happen)
"why do I have to re-route patches in FM8 from the FM7and it never sounds like what I started from" - time to reinstall and freeze. -dizzle .

[walrez]

Mh... I've been thinking it over...

EDIT: I deleted the rest of the post. I was just repeating what everyone else already wrote.

Sorry

[Z3R0T0N1N]

cheer up you lot

there's a couple of things in the list which i've seen asked for several times.

i don't know... it's still really cool software.



oddly, though, since i finally accepted that 2 will probably never have all the stuff that made 1.4 my favourite software, i have actually started to appreciate 1.4 on a level that i don't think i did before. i used to switch around between FL studio, Podium, and Ext; but for the past maybe 5 months i haven't touched anything except XT 1.41. I have opened FL a couple of times, and closed it within 5 minutes. So i think this experience has actually helped me appreciate what i have. The few little things that never got finished in 1.41 are not bothering me anymore, as i find more and more ways around them. By the gods, this is fantastic software!! true genius. to be fair to Jorgen, how on earth can you follow up perfection? it's always going to seem a bit disappointing, because 1.41 is the absolute pinnacle.
IMHO

[SWTrex]

to be fair to Jorgen, how on earth can you follow up perfection? it's always going to seem a bit disappointing, because 1.41 is the absolute pinnacle.
IMHO

I truly appreciate the optimism, Z, but speaking for myself only, what has me disappointed is not necessarily that XT2 is not better than 1.4, but that jorgen has led me to believe that XT2 was to be something greater than 1.4. I was looking forward to 1.4 plus added features plus stability plus...

Check his initial plan he laid out 2 1/2 years ago. Check out his post in August leading us to believe that great things were on the horizon. Check out his words passed on to us by djsubject in October.

Every beta in the past 6 months and today's long-awaited release has been a major disappointment. No wonder I (and many others) have become critical, jaded, pessimistic, and cynical.

XT is the only sequencer I use, and I will continue to use it as my only composing tool, but I'm disappointed it's not more than it is.

SWTrex

[bfloyd6969]

Coming from a new user of eXT2 - you all complain way too much. Sure, I just purchased the software after trying the demo version for a day and liked it. After purchasing and digging more into the core of the software and found many, many bugs and crashes I was upset but moved on and figured the $70 lost. I'm going to try to get a refund but I'm not holding breath on that.

Seriously people, what I'm trying to say is if you don't like it, stop using it and move onto another DAW. There are loads to choose from and many of them very good at or under $100. Sonar Home Studio and Reaper (non- commercial) come to mind. For a little more you can get Orion 7.6 at around $150 loaded with alot of great synths, sampler, and drum machines. personally I like Reaper and I rewire Orion into it.

[ret]

Seriously people, what I'm trying to say is if you don't like it, stop using it and move onto another DAW.

It's not so easy because most of us (still) like XT2 more than other daws. It's gui is so damn good and fast and it's not easy to find anything that comes even close.

The thing is that most of us who complain have used XT for a long long time. We've been there from the XT2 beta forum times, had promised a (some sort of) roadmap of what XT2 would be and there was communication between developer and us users... Then things just got, uh, weird. Other than some minor stuff none of the promised features appeared, roadmap went silently somewhere, communication stopped.

Now we have a 2.5 update that is a repacked old beta.

[kyodeejay]

Seriously people, what I'm trying to say is if you don't like it, stop using it and move onto another DAW. There are loads to choose from and many of them very good at or under $100. Sonar Home Studio and Reaper (non- commercial) come to mind. For a little more you can get Orion 7.6 at around $150 loaded with alot of great synths, sampler, and drum machines. personally I like Reaper and I rewire Orion into it.

Don't forgot Podium, 90$. I think that Podium is more near from ETX that Sonar or Orion, and it hasn't any know bug. And it will have this first half year suport for MIDI effects.

[Caleb]

Until XT becomes your go to host (if ever), try/buy another.

MULAB
REAPER
a bit expensive but Samplitude is good
PODIUM
etc.......

I love XT and really really really want it to be my be all end all host. Until then, I have to shell out more dough to upgrade Live. Am i happy with that? Well, could be worse...I could be a Reaper user.

Yeah - I'm a bit like that. That must be why I have licenses to many hosts.

I haven't yet found a reason to buy a Podium license though.

MuLab is pretty special in many ways - and not just because Jo is such a cool guy - but it feels a little clunky to me. After using the basics of XT2 I need to find something that's similarly fluid. I find REAPER is not a bad stand-in until XT2 develops further.

Regards
Caleb

[bfloyd6969]

Seriously people, what I'm trying to say is if you don't like it, stop using it and move onto another DAW.

It's not so easy because most of us (still) like XT2 more than other daws. It's gui is so damn good and fast and it's not easy to find anything that comes even close.

The thing is that most of us who complain have used XT for a long long time. We've been there from the XT2 beta forum times, had promised a (some sort of) roadmap of what XT2 would be and there was communication between developer and us users... Then things just got, uh, weird. Other than some minor stuff none of the promised features appeared, roadmap went silently somewhere, communication stopped.

Now we have a 2.5 update that is a repacked old beta.

I understand where you're coming from. However, I find Orion very user friendly and quick to get a project finished. I remember when I first used Orion I had a project done in a day. When I first tried eXT2 it took me about double the time for a similar project (I usually demo software with a simple project creation). Sure everyone works differently and it pretty much all comes to personal preferrence. Everyone's workflow is different.

[aMUSEd]

Seriously people, what I'm trying to say is if you don't like it, stop using it and move onto another DAW. There are loads to choose from and many of them very good at or under $100. Sonar Home Studio and Reaper (non- commercial) come to mind. For a little more you can get Orion 7.6 at around $150 loaded with alot of great synths, sampler, and drum machines. personally I like Reaper and I rewire Orion into it.

Don't forgot Podium, 90$. I think that Podium is more near from ETX that Sonar or Orion, and it hasn't any know bug.

Oh it does

but compared to eXT2 at least it does have multi core support - that is the dealbreaker really (as I said with XT2 came out dual core support should have been the no 1 priority when it was rewritten from the ground up)