no, it isn't ...still crashes when editing Automation during playbackwalrez wrote:Is it really gone?pdadda wrote:I have not really used eXT2 that much since the automation bug emerged. After a quick test run of 2.5, it seems to be gone. I will have to try out 2.5 this weekend and see if its usable in some way for me.
Could you test the same scenario using 2.5 and an older version (a previous beta), and 2.5 worked while the older crashed?
Thanks
New updates v2. - Coming 15th January: energyXT 2.5
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- KVRian
- 631 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
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...glad to be EXTended
...Always stay in tune...!
...glad to be EXTended
...Always stay in tune...!
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- KVRian
- 659 posts since 28 Sep, 2004
I think the guys like tomg are just trolls who like to post nonsense in forums to stir things up and push people's buttons. I would just ignore them.jens wrote:tomg wrote:
Jens and friends worked very hard to drive a wedge between Jorgen and the users. Their efforts are still apparent in this forum.
Oh, once again it's all my fault, yes?
I applaude your for your vivid... *cough* ...perception. You are a smart guy, tomg, and you prove it once again.
But a lot of people owe you an apology, jens, for trying to steer energyxt back on track when it started becoming apparent that it was veering off course.
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- KVRian
- 1334 posts since 5 May, 2004 from fighting the kVr disInfo
these are the responses _I_ don't get. the 1.x characters like me, perhaps, but like i said, there are BUGS in 1.x that should have been FIXED, in order for me to NOT HAVE REASON TO COMPLAIN, but they weren't, in lieu of starting development on the "Lamborghini of sequencers", XT2. i said cool, free upgrade for me, then thats cool. but it hasnt delivered and its been a LONG time. we are passed the threshhold of polite patience imo for the lack of communication, most of us stuck by jorgen when the first wave of dissenters were rising, and now I look like the ass.gamble wrote:some og you guys simply taking it overboard
yeah i almost saw this coming, yeah i *wanted* this to be the update that restored my faith but knew that was highly unlikely, do i still have reason to be pissed at THIS point, in Jan 2009, when the sequencer doesnt even support multicore? i belive, at THIS point, its warranted to be a little rant-ish, despite the "price point", despite whatever. a promise to the consumer should be kept.
i paid for xt1.x but it was never finished. large amounts of audio causes great pains in it. fix that and i may just forget xt2 existed altogether...
i am me and i am free...k thx bai
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- KVRist
- 101 posts since 10 Dec, 2007
RChler wrote:no, it isn't ...still crashes when editing Automation during playbackwalrez wrote:Is it really gone?pdadda wrote:I have not really used eXT2 that much since the automation bug emerged. After a quick test run of 2.5, it seems to be gone. I will have to try out 2.5 this weekend and see if its usable in some way for me.
Could you test the same scenario using 2.5 and an older version (a previous beta), and 2.5 worked while the older crashed?
Thanks
I suspected that
So... hm... who's staying.. who's leaving, and for what?
I couldn't find anything so immediate as xt2, and I want to keep using it, but I'd like to check the alternatives... Something that it's in the same vein, more or less. Especially if it has inline editing and doesn't cost $500. Couldn't work very well with Reaper, sadly.
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- KVRian
- 1334 posts since 5 May, 2004 from fighting the kVr disInfo
walrez, perhaps orion if reaper doesnt suit your fancy? you lose the brilliant eXt style routing...
maybe bidule too
maybe bidule too
i am me and i am free...k thx bai
- KVRAF
- 5540 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere
Just found Temper. It's more midi orientated. But it's good. Well, time to get other cheep daw.
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- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 6 Dec, 2003 from Mission Control
Yes, I push buttons when needed. A troll would never last 6 years without getting banned for something.swivel wrote: But a lot of people owe you an apology, jens, for trying to steer energyxt back on track when it started becoming apparent that it was veering off course.
And that's bullshit. He was in no position to steer anything. Jens did not write one line of XT code.
That is exactly the problem. For some reason some of the people around here that don't know anything at all, think that they know better than the developer and naturally the developer is a dumb ass if he has another plan.
- Let It Whip -
My Site, Music and Free EFM Plugins
My Site, Music and Free EFM Plugins
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- KVRAF
- 8519 posts since 7 Apr, 2003
tomg is not a troll. he's a helpful guy with a lot of stuff to give back. he's probably done way more for anyone than jens has, who i've not seen do anything besides ruffle feathers and get into confrontations with others about.
- KVRAF
- 25012 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
sorry, but then you must be blind or something - I'm never 'ruffling feathers' without a reason - I don't enjoy quarelling - but I enjoy helping others, answering questions, etc. and my posts are proof of this. Please be so fair as to check the validity of your perception.grymmjack wrote:tomg is not a troll. he's a helpful guy with a lot of stuff to give back. he's probably done way more for anyone than jens has, who i've not seen do anything besides ruffle feathers and get into confrontations with others about.
Tomg has never given any user support on this forum as I have - I was always there to answer users' questions - not tomg.
Your post is a slap in my face and in the face of truth.
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- KVRist
- 462 posts since 4 Jul, 2005 from Berlin, Germany
I still make music in ext2
.. but I too, was hoping for something more significant in 2.5
.. but I too, was hoping for something more significant in 2.5
- KVRAF
- 25012 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
b.t.w.:
http://www.energy-xt.com/forum
username: jens
password: jens
This will give you access to the hidden alpha-forum - enjoy.
http://www.energy-xt.com/forum
username: jens
password: jens
This will give you access to the hidden alpha-forum - enjoy.
- KVRAF
- 25012 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
I think I maybe shouldn't do this, even though I don't think it would do any harm and even though I never signed any NDA or something - but out of principle it's maybe a bad idea...
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- KVRian
- 755 posts since 27 Mar, 2006
That was a bit naughty jens.
Anyway, seems like it's gone now.
all activity stopped on 18/8/2008 eh?
Anyway, seems like it's gone now.
all activity stopped on 18/8/2008 eh?
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- KVRAF
- 2938 posts since 18 Jul, 2005
While I'd never defend his attitude, to be fair to him Jens was for a long time one of the people most familiar with EnergyXT 1.x as well as being one of the most active in helping out and sharing that knowledge.grymmjack wrote:tomg is not a troll. he's a helpful guy with a lot of stuff to give back. he's probably done way more for anyone than jens has, who i've not seen do anything besides ruffle feathers and get into confrontations with others about.
18/08/2008? I wonder what happened.
- KVRAF
- 25012 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
masstronaut wrote:That was a bit naughty jens.
Anyway, seems like it's gone now.
all activity stopped on 18/8/2008 eh?
yeah, I re-changed the password - it's an interesting read for sure though, especially if you look at how much time I wasted reporting stuff and making suggestions which Jorgen mostly agreed on but then changed his own plans to code an OSX-version, a synth, a toyish drum-sampler, etc. instead.
All acivity basically stopped in december 2006, when the first public 'beta' appeared. Jorgen said the private testing would still continue, but that was the first promise he broke.
