New updates v2. - Coming 15th January: energyXT 2.5

[tomg]

anyway man, i'm sticking up for tomg because he's not a troll.

Thanks but you don't need take heat on my account. I usually know what I'm doing and I'm just sneaky enough to keep from getting banned over it.

It's all gone so wrong. Maybe it's time we all took a break from the ongoing XT drama. It's a sequencer for God's sake. It is what it is. Either use it or move on. Two years of bitching hasn't gotten anybody anywhere.

It's not all Jens' fault and I don't mean to make it sound that way. Until he decided that Jorgen was an dumb ass, in the good days Jens was quite helpful to a lot of people. This is a massive cluster f**k and it took a lot of people to screw it up.

Jorgen took on a new CEO about the time he went silent, there is no telling how much of this is his doing. He may be under advisement to keep quite until the forum settles down. If I was the new CEO of a company that had this much turmoil on it's forum and I didn't want to just shut it down and start over, that's what I'd recommend.

[rpc9943]

i dont get it guys. i think that you all need to chill out, unfortunately it seems that things arent fixed. he simply released a "stable" of the beta, and hey, what if hes got a whole bunch of features waiting but havent been added yet? big deal. they will add it when it comes time. personally i'd like to know what showstoppers there are currently right now, and try to crash it. Because simply, I can't see what the big issues are right now. This is "a new beginning". A new version of what you remembered was ext1x. A complete recoding of something takes time man.

if anything, you could be using another host and use xt1x or xt2 for racking or modular chains. is it that bad?

RonC

[grymmjack]

+1, i've not used ext2 because i've been wary. now i dont have any idea what the bugs are if there are any. so a clean list, without any drama would help.

[walrez]

Ok, I've been playing with the usual contenders yet again. Reaper, Podium, MuLab, etc. For me, none of them comes close in terms of workflow.

In my opinion, as a programmer that made some mistakes: Ext would truly benefit from a serious project manager. Someone who doesn't let them add a single nerdy feature until it's reliable, and avoid stupid marketing tricks until there's something to back them up.

It seems like it's a bunch of very intelligent, intuitive child programmers without an adult to supervise them. Without one, I believe the product will eventually collapse, and that'd be a pity. Ext2 has potential, but is missing direction.

Someone should politely let them know... I wrote them in the past about this, and got positive responses, and one or two posts in this forum, but not enough.
A pity. In them meantime, I don't really know what to do, if to keep using the program or not. I should find an in-between program, until things get clear.

[Xiombarg]

...Ext would truly benefit from a serious project manager...

Yes, this is what I said in a previous post. The program appears to lack a sound software engineering methodology. Unfortunately, this is a very common problem with programming.

I wasn't an eXT 1.x user. I just bought the 2.x prior to release, based on strong user opinions. I do feel a little ripped off having spent the money for a program that doesn't deliver what was promised, and seriously lacks the basic features of a modern sequencer, and modern software design.

I had hoped that the rewrite that commenced with 2.x would include the adoption of a more appropriate methodology. I guess that lesson wasn't really learned very well.

Anyway, I'll have to start looking for another DAW. I just don't have much faith in Jorgen's settup as a design house. I think this is a real pity, as he has some really good ideas.

[druid]

Two years of bitching hasn't gotten anybody anywhere.

Ain't it the truth.

I recommend others give it up too. :) It's too much frustration for them; is wearing your life and mind down over one application that isn't how you want it worth it?

No. Or .. maybe yes, for some people. :S

[masstronaut]

Just a thought.

What makes this hard to believe and aggravating is the total lack of communication but it is possible that the latest updates weren't ready for 15th and they didn't want to miss the date for the release.

Yeah I know... step away from the bong...

[Kyran]

+1, i've not used ext2 because i've been wary. now i dont have any idea what the bugs are if there are any. so a clean list, without any drama would help.

The only real bug I've encountered so far on all my machines is that an insert fx in the drumsampler cuts of when the sample stops playing (so no delay or reverb tails).

YMMV

[masstronaut]

It's great that it works well enough for some people, although the above mentioned issue and others like it indicate the slapdash approach and lack of attention paid to details in implementing features.

The trouble is that there is scant evidence of what efforts are / have been made to find out what causes the program to be unstable on some systems, or even that the company could give a shit. That's why many have little time left for it now.

[paradiddle]

While you're all arguing, Jorgen is getting loaded in the hotel room with the Beringher girls.

[masstronaut]

Well according to the website XT gets loaded quicker.

I won't say anything about Behringers being cheap and made with low quality parts.

[Igro]

While you're all arguing, Jorgen is getting loaded in the hotel room with the Beringher girls.

Hahaha. I like it!

[cold c]

...Ext would truly benefit from a serious project manager...

Yes, this is what I said in a previous post. The program appears to lack a sound software engineering methodology. Unfortunately, this is a very common problem with programming.

Interesting, I don't know how many developers energyXT has or if it has a dedicated project manager, however I do recall:

EnergyXT 1.x was mainly programmed by Jørgen in Delphi/Pascal.

EnergyXT 2.x is now programmed in C++ (in order to support the new platforms Mac, Linux etc).

The architechture also changed (i.e. more complex) in order to accomodate new and future planned features.

Though certain methodologies and tools will help, supporting and developing for three platforms is still not trivial.

The 'rapid' development of eXT 1.x is probably not as acheivable with energyXT 2 due to all of the above reasons.

I don't think that a good project manager could negate the effect of the above, though they could at least prioritise a number of issues (eg bugs that are easy to fix and features that are easy to implement and have a large benefit for the application, or 'quick wins' etc). However, it is more than likely that the developer/developers 'already know' about those possibilities and there could be other political/organisational, financial, etc issues affecting development.

My apologies if this is just babbling.

I hope that good results show soon.

[grymmjack]

While you're all arguing, Jorgen is getting loaded in the hotel room with the Beringher girls.

and he'll emerge covered in angry orange.

[D-Fusion]

what did de-fusion beta test??? he talked about improvements etc....either he is a retard or he was given another .exe.

I just said that you will all be surprised when XT2.5 is released.

That was all i said and nothing more cause i tried to keep up the hope in here and i really had my hopes that XT 2.5 would be a big major update.

If i knew how bad this so called "update" was i wouldn't have wrote anything

And i am not more retarded than you are