you're so right. adding three new products to their lineup is unadulterated proof that a company is dead.calex wrote:NI and NAMM '09 - TOTAL BUST. They are a dead company now-a-days.
only companies that release no new products will survive!
BIG news from NI NAMM 2009
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35432 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
only companies that release no new products will survive!
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
so the future is bright for XT2.5 then?whyterabbyt wrote:you're so right. adding three new products to their lineup is unadulterated proof that a company is dead.calex wrote:NI and NAMM '09 - TOTAL BUST. They are a dead company now-a-days.
only companies that release no new products will survive!
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- KVRAF
- 4265 posts since 21 Oct, 2001 from my bolthole in the south pacific
Indeed.Algorythm wrote:There is also Musikmesse 09 and they might reveal more new products there...
NI are actually a German company!
(You heard it here first!)
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- KVRian
- 1488 posts since 7 Jan, 2004
Kriminal laughed his pants off by all our guesses because there is no VSTi like that. At least not something for the NAMM show as is suggests in this thread.Kriminal wrote:i know a company begining with A are previewing their first VSTi...and no, its not Access...
Booh! His credibility has dropped miles now.
The more I hang around at KVR the less music I make.
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- KVRAF
- 2911 posts since 3 Mar, 2006
Actually, the prelim list for companies attending musikmesse does not include NI.egbert wrote:Indeed.Algorythm wrote:There is also Musikmesse 09 and they might reveal more new products there...
NI are actually a German company!
(You heard it here first!)
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- KVRAF
- 2493 posts since 6 Dec, 2005 from Bay Area, USA
NI will be around for a while - since they are following the same trend of bundling apps inside boxes like Maschine.
IMO - THIS was the real trend this year - survivalism of the various companies by bundling apps inside boxes (as well as probably some potential mergers/acquisitions/licensing deals in the near future I presume).
Greg
IMO - THIS was the real trend this year - survivalism of the various companies by bundling apps inside boxes (as well as probably some potential mergers/acquisitions/licensing deals in the near future I presume).
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 13717 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
Yes, he should definitely be forced to take a "time-out" and repent, while being subjected to You-tube "demo's" of Microsofts sing-into-a-microphone song-maker/creator-thingy...Timfonie wrote:Kriminal laughed his pants off by all our guesses because there is no VSTi like that. At least not something for the NAMM show as is suggests in this thread.Kriminal wrote:i know a company begining with A are previewing their first VSTi...and no, its not Access...
His credibility has dropped miles now.
(counts to 5)
O.k. all better...
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- KVRAF
- 2608 posts since 26 Aug, 2002 from here
I'm not sure, but that akai ableton controller does not appear to have velocity sensitive pads. So it will be pretty useless for programming beats.
I believe every thread should devolve into character attacks and witch-burning. It really helps the discussion.
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Ok, you're saying you're not sure - but if that was true, it'd be absolutely ridiculous and an epic failure.ericj23 wrote:I'm not sure, but that akai ableton controller does not appear to have velocity sensitive pads. So it will be pretty useless for programming beats.
- Sascha
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRAF
- 2608 posts since 26 Aug, 2002 from here
IndeedSascha Franck wrote:Ok, you're saying you're not sure - but if that was true, it'd be absolutely ridiculous and an epic failure.ericj23 wrote:I'm not sure, but that akai ableton controller does not appear to have velocity sensitive pads. So it will be pretty useless for programming beats.
- Sascha
But there is not one of the many sites that cover it that confirm that it does have velocity sensitive pads. And even if it does they must be tiny, which might not be an epic fail but will still be a pain
I believe every thread should devolve into character attacks and witch-burning. It really helps the discussion.
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- Banned
- 4072 posts since 7 Nov, 2007
OverDose wrote:there are no pressure sensitive pads on the apc40.
True...
The APC40, is just a controller, specifically designed to work with Live. Its this specific reason, why I wouldn't be in a rush to buy it.
IMHO...
It needs a good think.
I can't believe they didn't design and all in one solution, that incorporates Live 8's new groove ability, other vst/au synthesizers, and traveling about the DAW..............
Definitely, it is nice to see a hardware company, involved with a software company, manufacturing a controller, specifically for the software.
Problem?
In this case, the software is a DAW, and the controller neglects well over 95% of a modern computer studio's functionality....
IMHO....
( edit )
What is thoroughly annoying is that the new Axiom Pro controllers, seem unsupported by Ableton.**
-- Unconfirmed**
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
That must be a joke. And unfortunately one that can't be fixed by a software update.OverDose wrote:there are no pressure sensitive pads on the apc40.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRist
- 293 posts since 19 Sep, 2004
Could be , however I think the Bob Moog ,Dave Smith and Roger Linn school of thought is behind a lot of this .....siriusbliss wrote:NI will be around for a while - since they are following the same trend of bundling apps inside boxes like Maschine.
IMO - THIS was the real trend this year - survivalism of the various companies by bundling apps inside boxes (as well as probably some potential mergers/acquisitions/licensing deals in the near future I presume).
Greg
"the future of electronic instruments is in the evolution of the user interface" (all of which can be quoted as saying a variation of this ) as mpc style pads may not be "new" it is a step in a different direction as they become the norm .
Also tactile function has been a compliant of many users of soft synths for .....as long as they have been around . They are finally just giving users what they have been asking for .
Ok I am ranting so I will close this out with one last thought : Next namm (summer/winter maybe) will be the tell as most of these products have been in development for a while before the economic down slide started hitting hard anyway .
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- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 11 Dec, 2008 from Minneapolis
No, but on the other hand it's not like there aren't a lot of options, including stuff that really is basically just 16 pads. Why reinvent the wheel?Sascha Franck wrote: That must be a joke. And unfortunately one that can't be fixed by a software update.
Other than Monomes, which are a few steps up in price, I'm not of aware of anything mass produced that meets the description of the APC buttons - lots and lots of buttons in a grid. Just a ton of interesting things can be done with that.
It's a little more of a writing-by-editing (or performance-by-editing) than writing-by-performance thing.
Also it looks like it'll be a lot more robust than a lot of plastic-y stuff in a similar price range, which is no small thing.
If people want writing-by-performance gear, there's plenty of that, most already have plenty. What would be accomplished by Ableton jumping in there?