Cytomic 'The Glue' Compressor

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rydan wrote:
andy_cytomic wrote:My protection is a serial number, not challenge and response based on some operating system heuristic. It will never time out, or stop working for any reason to do with you changing hardware in your system. You will be able to authorise on multiple machines and you will have the license to use it for a single composition at a time, even if that spans multiple machines (eg using a second machine for extra processing via some vst send / return network plugin).
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The reason I have bought most Sonalksis plugins instead of some other stuff, even though they are more expensive, and the reason I don't own a single Waves plugin!
I figure if someone really wants to use a cracked version, even though it's going to be inexpensive compared to anything else of similar quality, then I can't stop them. I would rather not penalise someone that has done the right thing and bought it by than make them suffer with horrible copy protection schemes that fall over just when you are about to play a gig.

At the price point I'm going for I hope it's easier for people just to buy it instead of trying to find a virus ridden version on some torrent server and having to skulk around not talking about it publicly in places like this for fear of someone finding out they are using a crack.

I would like to thank everyone in advance that plans to buy it for their support. If I can't make a meager living out of this then this I'm afraid this will be my first and last plugin. At least I've enjoyed writing it, and I hope people get good use from it once it's finished.

Andrew Simper
The Glue, The Drop, The Scream - www.cytomic.com

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andy_cytomic wrote:
rydan wrote:By the way, you're SURE you wont have 0.1s release time as well?? I think I would miss it a bit for aggressive compression... =(
It is 0.1 S release. It's just labelled more correctly than the original unit. To save confusion I will label it incorrectly as well. So the release times will be:

Release (S): 0.1, 0.2, 0.4, 0.6, 0.8, 1.2, Auto

Andrew Simper
What? No 0.3s release? :D :wink:
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rydan wrote:
andy_cytomic wrote: Release (S): 0.1, 0.2, 0.4, 0.6, 0.8, 1.2, Auto
What? No 0.3s release? :D :wink:
Haha, well I just like the look of 0.2 instead of 0.3 in the sequence of numbers. I haven't actually changed the sound at all, it's actually still 0.2, 0.3 just like the original one that is labelled 0.1 and 0.3.

Don't you think it looks better that way ? :)

Andrew Simper
The Glue, The Drop, The Scream - www.cytomic.com

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I've been following this thread with interest. I have to say Andy comes across as a very open and forthcoming person with a genuine passion for his work. I'm looking forward to hearing this and indeed using it in my projects.

Re piracy, I've tried to explain to some friends of mine who still download mp3s that if you like an artist you should support them, just because you can get something for free doesn't mean you should. If there is no or little return then production will cease to be worthwhile and everyone loses at the end of the day. So I reckon we should get behind developers like andy who obviously know their craft and have a good approach to customer relations (unlike some I could mention! ;) ). Wishing u all the best in your forthcoming release (now hurry up and release it already! :) )

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please tell us if you go to release the OSX AU version at same time of WIN XP VST version ,becose i like to buy a DUENDE ad i like to know if i can waiting for you or buying a duende PCi card

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sfp wrote:please tell us if you go to release the OSX AU version at same time of WIN XP VST version ,becose i like to buy a DUENDE ad i like to know if i can waiting for you or buying a duende PCi card
My advice get a Duende PCIe
I have UAD2 and Powercore with pretty much all the extra plugs and the SSL Duende
really imparts that SSL crisp punchy sound and is quick.

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andy_cytomic wrote: At the price point I'm going for I hope it's easier for people just to buy it instead of trying to find a virus ridden version on some torrent server and having to skulk around not talking about it publicly in places like this for fear of someone finding out they are using a crack.
:lol:

i'm eagerly awaiting this price point infomation, & cant wait to try the demo

although by the looks of things it will come at the same time as the quarterly bills :scared:

of my list of developers that deserve to be supported you & Urs are currently top (& that bugger got my cash aswell :hihi: )

TBH, i find your DSP fascinating! solid hardware sound in VST land is every Producer's dream, & from what i have heard so far IMO yours is best!

maybe TDM & other DSP cards are as good or better but i cant afford them so i have no idea

i hope things go well for you!

Subz

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djsubject wrote:...of my list of developers that deserve to be supported you & Urs are currently top (& that bugger got my cash aswell :hihi: )
Hey Subz, thanks heaps for supporting Urs! We catch up at Messe every year and have great chats. Urs is a top guy and works hard writing advanced effects and synths with loads of options. Small outfits like U-He (Urs) and Cytomic need all the support we can get.

He was very complimentary in this thread as well, thanks Urs! http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 32#2016932

Andrew Simper
The Glue, The Drop, The Scream - www.cytomic.com

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Andy how do you compare your compressor to UAD 1176 compressor. I love the warmthness of the 1176 and the vintage feel of it. Gives a nice sense of valve to it. Hopefully yours will not sound the same as it would be pointles sbuying two the same.

Anyhow appoloies if thats been asked before.

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Jay-Producer wrote:Andy how do you compare your compressor to UA 1176 compressor. I thinks its UA who made that compressor. I love the warmthness of the 1176 and the vintage feel of it. Gives a nice sense of valve to it. Hopefully yours will not sound the same as it would be pointles sbuying two the same.
Anyhow appoloies if thats been asked before.
It's like asking what sound better a guitar or a piano, they are both instruments with strings but that's about where the similarity ends. The Glue has a completely different sound to a Urei 1176. I have done a model of an 1176 for Bfd2, and will possibly model it again, or model something similar in the future for Cytomic.

The Urei 1176 has no values, it's all solid state. The main gain reduction element is a FET, used as a voltage controlled resistor, and it uses sets of matched discrete transistors for both gain elements, the main and the sidechain.

By contrast The Glue is way cleaner, it uses voltage to decibel gain, very linear, "That" chips and op-amps and nearly no noise. Having said that, it can slam the crap out of things with The Glue, but it's just a different kind of slamming, it just depends on what sound you want.

I hope that helps.

Andrew Simper
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The Glue, The Drop, The Scream - www.cytomic.com

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The BFD2 1176 sounds nothing like the BFD2 SSL so I also think you'd be wise to own both.

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So I take it will be more natural sounding than the others that are out there? not digitaly sounding I hope. I take it from what you have said it is for mastering purposes?

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hurry up already Andrew! :) Everyday I get on here hope that today will be the day this is released.

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andy_cytomic wrote:I have done a model of an 1176 for Bfd2, and will possibly model it again, or model something similar in the future for Cytomic.
Andy, just in terms of building a reputation for your new company and generating some capital I'd definitely recommend that you take a new stab at the 1176LN next. You'd probably be able to get that one built fairly quickly (already having the schematic and having coded one once before), and there's still no good native 1176 out there IMO (except the one in BFD2). As much as I'd love to see you do a Distressor, if The Glue is successful (it will be), and you want to expand the line and your brand, an 1176 should be next.

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Jay-Producer wrote:So I take it will be more natural sounding than the others that are out there? not digitaly sounding I hope. I take it from what you have said it is for mastering purposes?
The SSL is a bus compressor, it's great for things like a drums or mix bus, but works on other sources too. It's commonly a compressor that people mix "into to" as opposed to a mastering compressor, but the distinction is really just one of taste at this point. From Andy's examples his take on it is not digital sounding at all. In terms of it being natural sounding, it's something I'd rather hear than not if you know what I mean. If you're talking about it sounding analog, then I think Andy nailed it.

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