automap 3, woot woot!!! [bumped from April 2009]

[grymmjack]

The velocity sensitive 'drum' pads now appear in the gui. Can these be assigned CC's and notes just like the other buttons? If so, How?

i tried to do this using the SL template editor, uploading the Automap template to the editor, changing the pads to CC's (and for the reason i wanted simple ON/OFF button functionality as CC versions instead of notes), and then reuploaded it.

however, i was presented with a warning "You are overwriting the Automap template and can make your Automap not work anymore" (or something like that) and so i just said whatever let me do it, and sent it.

guess what? automap didn't work anymore

i'd also like to do this for the host automap templates on my SL, but i've not yet been able to do this with any success. seems overwriting those templates with edited copies breaks the functionality for automap.

would be great if we could do this right in the Automap Pro 3 software - in fact, it would be even better if the entire SL editor could work through the Automap Pro 3 stuff, but that's quite a lot to ask i know.

[ollybfocusritenovation]

Use Drum Pads to output MIDI CC -

1. in the settings menu, ensure that you have AUTOMAP MIDI set up in MIDI outputs. activate some MIDI Channels

2. Press the USER button - you'll see the MIDI Channels you added.

3. Click a drum pad. (it goes red. and the info bar appears below)

4. in the parameter drop down - choose the MIDI CC number.

5. Rename the button to something useful.

(6. Automap MIDI needs to be active as a MIDI input in your DAW)

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[zerocrossing]

Again, it's only $30. Is that a lot? Really? Are there are a lot of 13 year school kids with no allowance trying to get their hands on it?

As far as the ideological argument on Novation ripping people off, how is this any different than an upgrade to your favorite DAW? Also, would you rather Novation roll out new controllers with Automap 3, rendering the older hardware obsolete? $30 guys!

It's always funny to me when I hear the normal "rip off" chatter when a company actually tries to get some money for work they've done. Maybe you should buy a Soviet based Automap application. Oh wait, there isn't any because there's no motivation to make one.

OMG the arrogance....
And what does the soviet union have to do with this... you clearly feel superiour, and want people to know that ( wonder where you are from... but your reaction seems a bit USA stylie).

Maybe arrogant, mostly sick of internet whiners. Yes, born in the USA. Not that I've been all that proud of that fact... since Reagan, but I do believe that if you have a nice carrot on the end of the stick your mule will pick up the pace a bit. Actually, it's not a believe, it's fact. Also, half my family fled from the Soviet Union so I can do a little light bashing. If there's ever a woman who embraced capitalism via retail, it was my grandmother!

I think it is not much , the $30, but i think this feature should have been in the original software already so i am disappointed i have to pay for it since i got the controller recently. For a more spectacular upgrade i would maybe feel different about it.

You call me arrogant yet you get to decide what features a developer puts in their software. That's pretty arrogant. I'm just trying to stick up for a company that I believe does a great job. Also, they're German, right? Believe me, I'm no nationalist. I do believe in the right for a person, or company to get compensated for work done. Novation clearly stated the specs of it's product and you bought it.

Also, for some ppl $30 is a few days of food in the fridge, not all people are as fortunate as us both. Reapect that too, and maybe you will not seem like such an a**. And who the f*** is Denny. 2 people can eat for 30 bucks that doesn't sound like something anyone with good taste would go to....( see? arrogance is sooo easy, but it's bad mkay?)

Yes, Denny's sucks hard, though their naming conventions are awesome. Who wouldn't want to eat a breakfast meal intitled "Moons over my hammy?" My point is, if you can afford a computer, a nice controller and the DAW and VSTs you have yet $30 is a hardship than perhaps you should pick another hobby. Acapella singing maybe? Low cost to entry. (add sarcasm to arrogance and you got a deal!)

Anyway, I don't want to fight with you. I'm not even sure what feature you're talking about. Automap 2 isn't perfect but as far as I can see they're the only ones who are even trying for something like this and I want to encourage them so that they continue to make their software better. The way my people do that type of encouragement is with cash.

To me you seem a bit like a novation employee tbh.

Nope, but that does sound like a fun gig. I'm a guy who works for a company that sells software(computer games). So if they get people to buy their software than they give me a little of it and then I buy someone else's software. So don't think of the $30 as you getting ripped off. Think of it as you giving money to someone else who wants to buy/use what ever you do for a living. The cycle of life continues!

[bmanic]

Why on earth is this a "pro" version feature only? Surely you should be thankful to users who purchase multiple of your hardware controllers instead of having them pay extra to get them to work? I really cannot see the logic behind this decision. It's been asked on other forums as well (for instance Gearslutz) but never got an answer.

Cheers!
bManic

It seems pretty logical to me. Most users won't need it, those who do will be happy about it. They programmed a feature for a minority - this has to be paid in some way.

It's still a strange decision in my opinion. In many other companies, be it automotive, cellphones, restaurant etc. The "minority" big spenders usually get the small treats free of charge. Like I said earlier, it isn't a question about money, it is a question of how much does the company truly value their customers. Are we just cash cows or truly valued customers that support a hardware company? Or perhaps novation is going to go the software road and this is the start. Who knows..

This is business, not friendship. You have to find some ways to make some money, else you are out of the game.

True but it works both ways. But they have the numbers and perhaps that 30$ extra is something they are counting on in these tough financial times.

Cheers!
bManic

[selthy]

Use Drum Pads to output MIDI CC -

1. in the settings menu, ensure that you have AUTOMAP MIDI set up in MIDI outputs. activate some MIDI Channels

2. Press the USER button - you'll see the MIDI Channels you added.

3. Click a drum pad. (it goes red. and the info bar appears below)

4. in the parameter drop down - choose the MIDI CC number.

5. Rename the button to something useful.

(6. Automap MIDI needs to be active as a MIDI input in your DAW)

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3. Click a drum pad. (it goes red. and the info bar appears below)

It doesn't go red and the info bar does not appear. Are you using standard or Pro? I am using standard.

When I hit a pad, the default message is This control is not assigned, to assign it use learn mode or select a paramater below. When I use learn mode, I can assign the control or copy an existing control, but this cannot be changed (ie. selecting the pad with a mouse in the automap gui does not bring up the info bar).

[Leslie]

Automap 3 pro is BRILLIANT

[Axis1~SL61]

Sorry if this has been asked and answered already here, but right now I don't have the time to read the wholle 6 pages long thread...
What exactly are the improvements and new features in Automap3 Standard that Automap 2 doesn't have?... I downloaded and installed Automap3 and it seems to work ok (no problems so far, using Nuendo3 and one ReMote SL61 unit). Didn't have the time to try it in detail yet, but in general I saw no new things apart from having new drop down menus at the top of the Automap window.
I know the Pro, payware version has automaping of touch pad, etc, but surely there must be a few new things in the Standard version too?...
I couldn't find a list of the update's new features in the Novation site -- can anyone enlighten me on this?
Thanks in advance.

[Sunrider]

True but it works both ways. But they have the numbers and perhaps that 30$ extra is something they are counting on in these tough financial times.

Does the Pro version have any copy protection...?

[zerocrossing]

Oh for cry'n out loud! I just went to upgrade to Automap 3 Pro and I'm told it's only available in the UK!

[Download SOphist]

just a question, has anyone managed to automap massive with automap 3 properly? i just can't do it, but worked as a charm with automap 2. sorry for the bit OT, please rant on ....

Cheers!

edit: turns out the problem was with 2 instances of massive on the same folder. deleted one, now all works ok.

[saintjohnbaxter]

Sorry if this has been asked before - don't feel like readin 6 pages

If I upgrade my Automap 3 to the Pro version, will I get charged another 20 quid ($55 NZ) when Automap 4 is released?

I mean, the Nocturn is only 70 quid but 20 quid for a software update every time and the 70 don't look so good no more. (can't find the pound sign on this Mac keyboard )

[akpop]

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Bad Luck: It didn't recognize my 37SL.

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You update the firmware and then you can install the new automap version.

Thanks. I had to disconnect my USB-audio-interface first. Only then would automap 3 recognize my 37SL and update the OS.
Unfortunately now all my automapped plug-ins are missing the automap frame. I cannot switch between maps anymore, been stuck with the first loading plug-in in every session.

[zerocrossing]

Oh for cry'n out loud! I just went to upgrade to Automap 3 Pro and I'm told it's only available in the UK!

OK, that was a false alarm. Some text on their site they forgot to delete. I got the upgrade UI when I installed Automap 3. Anyway, it didn't seem to come with a manual and all the tutorials are for Automap 2. Am I missing something?

[MitchK1989]

The velocity sensitive 'drum' pads now appear in the gui. Can these be assigned CC's and notes just like the other buttons? If so, How?

They only can in automap "pro"

[Naive Teen Idol]

Sorry if this has been asked and answered already here, but right now I don't have the time to read the wholle 6 pages long thread...
What exactly are the improvements and new features in Automap3 Standard that Automap 2 doesn't have?... I downloaded and installed Automap3 and it seems to work ok (no problems so far, using Nuendo3 and one ReMote SL61 unit). Didn't have the time to try it in detail yet, but in general I saw no new things apart from having new drop down menus at the top of the Automap window.
I know the Pro, payware version has automaping of touch pad, etc, but surely there must be a few new things in the Standard version too?...
I couldn't find a list of the update's new features in the Novation site -- can anyone enlighten me on this?
Thanks in advance.

Since nobody answered this question when I asked it earlier in the thread, this is what I found on the Ableton forum:

Automap 3.0b2 - 13 December 2009 - Beta Release

Automap 3.0 Standard

New Features

• New browser start-up view with shortcuts including specific DAW client set-up guides
• Revised Plug-in Manager application
• Uniform Installer now integrates software and hardware installation for all Automap products
• New Automap HUI Client replaces hardware HUI templates with support for Logic and Pro Tools
• Added keyboard shortcuts (Windows)
• Improved Midi Client can now Send/Receive note data and independent client naming
• Automatic software updater

So, yeah -- unless you're planning shelling out $30 for Pro or are generally unhappy w/ the functionality of Automap 2.0, this new version doesn't seem so interesting.