Cytomic 'The Glue' Compressor

[andy-cytomic]

For example say stick (Sic) an instance of either Brainworx Music's BX Solo or Voxengo's MSED before and after The Glue and you have instant Mid/Side (or lat/vert) fuctionality

This is only true if you run two mono instances of The Glue, each processing their own channels, left respective right. A stereo instance of The Glue does not work in dual-mono or any kind of left/right averaging mode (AFAIK), which means that sticking it between a mid/side matrix would result in no change to ordinary stereo operation.

Just wanted to clear this up.

Cheers!
bManic

The dual mono, and mid side processing are both very easy to add to the plugin, and will take no extra cpu at all. I will release it as is and consider such additions with care as I don't want to spoil the compressor with feature creep just for the sake of it. I would prefer it to be slightly limited and people work around the limitations if The Glue already covers most tasks in a simple an elegant way.

Andrew Simper

[tumface]

i always vote for simple and elegant.

though i may have to recall that vote if logic 9's routing doesn't improve upon 8's :] my projects get spoiled with bus creep.

also, andy, i sent you an email with some more comments on guru's fx using kvr's forum thingy the other day. dunno if you got it. or if you chose to ignore random forum dude from the internet, that's cool too :]

[andy-cytomic]

As a Mix Buss compressor, would this be useful on a Master Channel entire mix type compression?

Just looking for something to fatten up my DnB songs!!!

Would this impart a smooth level of circuit type grit to the music?

Thanks guys for already covering this, but I just wanted to add a couple of things.

The short answer is "yes".

The slightly longer answer is that The Glue will bring out the grit in the sounds in your song, it will not add noise, but the end result is your mix will have more detail and grit if it was there to begin with. So you can think of it as a detail highlighter rather than creating detail from nothing.

How does it compare to other Plugs out there such as GC0-1 for example?

I have no idea, I'll leave it to others to compare such things. I do my comparisons with the analog hardware I model. I don't see much point in doing anything else, and I'm the last person you should trust even if I have compared them since I am completely biased.

Andrew Simper

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Andy sorry if it came out wrong mate > i like the simple approach also. It was just me thinking out loud whilst typing (something i do all to often ) what i can further do with The Glue with things i already have to expand its uses and not at all any hint intended or implied that any such extras should be added my friend. Sorry if any wires got crossed

and michu > yep thats another one i overlooked with haste; so thanks for reminding me mate

All the best to all

Dean/Nekro

[putte]

so... good news!

.. pough, that's good news!

[Uncle E]

The dual mono, and mid side processing are both very easy to add to the plugin, and will take no extra cpu at all. I will release it as is and consider such additions with care as I don't want to spoil the compressor with feature creep just for the sake of it. I would prefer it to be slightly limited and people work around the limitations if The Glue already covers most tasks in a simple an elegant way.

The problem is the workarounds can't be used when offline processing or 2-track editing. Also, such extra features would be a real attraction to those of us already using good buss compressors, the Duende Buss Compressor and UAD 33609 are as good as hardware already but they lack the extra functionality available to software.

[michu]

and michu > yep thats another one i overlooked with haste; so thanks for reminding me mate

heh, cannot resist
http://michu.kofeina.net/disturbient-comp.mp3
http://michu.kofeina.net/disturbient-nocomp.mp3

first one uses 3 The Glues in a multiband setup, the other just hits the hardclip in the master buss.

a bit of topic, i've recently got cheapo contact mic of the tuner kind. cannot imagine recording my fretless without it anymore. i sounds like buzz, squeak and ring by itself but when mixed with pickup output it adds magik

[bmanic]

The dual mono, and mid side processing are both very easy to add to the plugin, and will take no extra cpu at all. I will release it as is and consider such additions with care as I don't want to spoil the compressor with feature creep just for the sake of it. I would prefer it to be slightly limited and people work around the limitations if The Glue already covers most tasks in a simple an elegant way.

The problem is the workarounds can't be used when offline processing or 2-track editing. Also, such extra features would be a real attraction to those of us already using good buss compressors, the Duende Buss Compressor and UAD 33609 are as good as hardware already but they lack the extra functionality available to software.

Huh? Of course it can be used in offline rendering as well, at least in any modular/flexible daw, like Reaper, EnergyXT, Cubase, Logic etc.

EDIT: just noticed you said 2-track editing, you mean like in Wavelab? Again, you just need to wrap it into something like EnergyXT or any other modular plugin that can host other plugins.

Dual mono is really nothing more than opening two instances of The Glue, one on the left channel and one on the right. The only real benefit for having it inside the plugin is that you can much more easily change settings. With two instances you need to tweak them separately.

Mid/Side is no different. Simply insert a ms-matrix set to encode, before the two Glue instances, then set a ms-matrix set to decode, after the Glue.

It shouldn't affect offline rendering in any way, as far as I know.

Cheers!
bManic

PS. I love my plugins bloated and full of features so personally I'd love to have it all built in but because we have an open side-chain, all this is already possible so it is not a real must. It'd just be easier to manage.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[djanthonyw]

I'm hoping for this week...

[Uncle E]

Huh? Of course it can be used in offline rendering as well, at least in any modular/flexible daw, like Reaper, EnergyXT, Cubase, Logic etc.

I'm referring to offline processing, not offline rendering. Sure, it's easy to render a track down with multiple plug-ins but you can only use one plug-in at a time when offline processing on a clip level.

Also, if Energy XT is the solution to the problem, I'm afraid that's no solution at all. You and I may have Energy XT but the average user does not. Furthermore, it's far too cumbersome of a solution for the average mix engineer to deal with.

[pough]

i want this!!

Let me know when you're ready to sell it!

[Nokenoku]

i want this!!

And I want to test it!

[warp x]

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[bodan]

no no no no no no no no
bodan