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OddIction · Post by **OddIction** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:37 am

Thanx Knoml,

It's good to read all the positive comments.

OddIction · Post by **OddIction** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:09 am

I just added Los(t)Alamos, a new radical package with weird and uncommon sounds

Don't forget to update your bookmarks!

dreaddd · Post by **dreaddd** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:11 am

thx for your generosity, man!

Peace

widget · Post by **widget** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:42 am

Some of the license's language looks spurious to me:

"...All copying, lending, duplicating, re-selling or trading of this product or its content is strictly prohibited. ... You cannot electronically transfer the sound samples or place them in a time-sharing or service bureau operation or a computer/sampler connected to a network."

This appears to make digital transfers illegitimate, including moving the samples around on HDD/CD/etc and even the initial download. Furthermore, it prohibits connecting a device/computer/etc to a network if the samples are present on the connecting device. After downloading the samples you would have to disconnect your computer from all networks including the internet to be fully compliant.

And:

"... Only the ORIGINAL purchaser of this product has the right to embody and reproduce the enclosed sound samples within their music compositions. ..."

This seems to prohibit the use of these samples. At least for free. No one has purchased these samples since they are free, so no one has met the "ORIGINAL purchaser" requirement (presumably).

And finally:

"...Opening this product constitutes your acceptance of these terms. ..."

Why such an aggressive license? Is this to prevent people from selling the samples? Anyway, the license never explicitly defines what constitutes "this product" so this only really applies to the license.txt file itself, and I am pretty certain that simply reading a contract can't legally be construed as agreeing to it. In court it would never hold up, but it's scary nonetheless, and considering the other problems with the license, I think it should be reworked slightly before people use or even download these sounds, since the license automatically dictates non-compliance.

risome · Post by **risome** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:46 am

Who cares just use the samples, there are some cool sounds there

widget · Post by **widget** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:00 am

I care. And anyone who might use the samples for non-hobby work. Or anyone who wants to comply with the license. And before the flaming commences, I would like to say that the same 'who cares about licensing, just use it because you can get away with it' attitude can be applied equally to sampling commercial work without a license in violation of copyright or stealing apps/mp3/etc, which according to this license is exactly what you did today if you downloaded and used these samples, since you A) didn't buy them, and B) connected to KVR to post a response to my comment/question from the same computer.

OddIction · Post by **OddIction** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:13 pm

Hi widget,

Thanks for pointing this out, I did not write the license myself because I don't know d*ck about these things, a friend helped me out on this one. I will contact Creative Commons and ask them for their opinion on this issue. I don't know for sure if I can copy the text from their license I'm using one-on-one to the license files that I zip with the packs.

I'm using this one:

Attribution 3.0 Unported

This license is acceptable for Free Cultural Works.
You are free:

* to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work
* to Remix — to adapt the work

Under the following conditions:

* Attribution. You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).

Attribute this work:
Information
What does "Attribute this work" mean?
The page you came from contained embedded licensing metadata, including how the creator wishes to be attributed for re-use. You can use the HTML here to cite the work. Doing so will also include metadata on your page so that others can find the original work as well.

* For any reuse or distribution, you must make clear to others the license terms of this work. The best way to do this is with a link to this web page.
* Any of the above conditions can be waived if you get permission from the copyright holder.
* Nothing in this license impairs or restricts the author's moral rights.

Meanwhile I'm working on a new Hip-Hop Package

Reverend Rhythm · Post by **Reverend Rhythm** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:08 pm

New Hip Hop package? Sweet!

Knoml · Post by **Knoml** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:02 pm

SOUNDresource wrote: Meanwhile I'm working on a new Hip-Hop Package

Yeah! That Westcoast Cruizin one was great! I was very impressed. I've gotten to a point now where I won't download samples anymore (better to mess with a few samples to get a sound rather than search a huge library). BUT, I will definitely download the new Hip-Hop Package because that first one was impressive!

[actually I would download some more samples if it was something I could not make myself, for instance some live brass instruments or some live drummer stuff (difficult to emulate and great for 'sampling')].

widget · Post by **widget** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:45 pm

I think it's fine to include any CC license. You might want to add something preventing resale and redistribution of the original samples without obtaining a proper license in the form of consent in writing, if you are interested in preventing them from being sold. You should also apply this to derivative works made for use as samples in that case. I would go with something like:

=======================

XXX Sample Pack (c) s****r***.eu

The XXX Sample Pack is licensed to persons obtaining
this pack in compliance with this license under the
terms of the Creative Commons XXX license with the
following additional requirements and conditions:

...

i. Resale
You may not sell, or make available for sale XXX
Sample Pack or any derivative work for use as samples
without obtaining a written license from s***r***.eu
granting such rights.

...

=========================

This is not really ready for prime time, and would need to be reworked.

widget

OddIction · Post by **OddIction** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:35 pm

Will look into it asap. widget, tnx!

I've just put the new pack Juicey.Gin online

Nj0Y!

OddIction · Post by **OddIction** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:03 am

Hello there

I just added a new pack called Trinitite,it's the second part in the Manhattan Project soundfiles

This one contains 50 24 bit mono percussion one-shots and 40 24bit stereo waveprints/impulses of the "ODD" category.

Nj0Y!

RunBeerRun · Post by **RunBeerRun** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:25 am

Just another thanks! I got all your sets, and visit your site once every morning to look for new stuff.

I haven't even jammed on your stuff once, haven't had time to play drums, I've been sequencing them.

But there's cool sounds, and a lot of variety.

OddIction · Post by **OddIction** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:42 pm

RunBeerRun wrote:Just another thanks! I got all your sets, and visit your site once every morning to look for new stuff.

I haven't even jammed on your stuff once, haven't had time to play drums, I've been sequencing them.

But there's cool sounds, and a lot of variety.

Glad you like them!

Meanwhile I'm working on 2 new packs whenever some free time occurs

Last week I was watching TimeWarp on Discovery and got some inspiration for a new sample pack... So there's more to come.

thoshu · Post by **thoshu** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:22 pm

Thank you, interesting sample packs, nice looking blog!

[FREE Samples] my sample/audio blog: soundresource.eu