KVR Audio

rachmiel · Post by **rachmiel** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:46 pm

a remix of stockhausen's klavierstueck x, i like to think of this as a solo for pianist with 20 hands (or, alternately, as nancarrow channeling stockhausen):

http://rachmiel.org/kvr/remix-X.mp3

happy birthday mike! :-)

rachmiel · Post by **rachmiel** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:11 pm

no afficionados of karlheinz's klavierstuecke out there? ;-)

if you are not familiar with klavierstueck x, the piece on which remix-X is based, you should have a listen. it's one of the most wildly virtuosic piano pieces ever written, ekstatisch, an atonal musical revelation.

polyslax · Post by **polyslax** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:37 am

Intense! Loaded with wonderful movement and textures that go from raw to trippy. The flexible spaces and delays are a nice touch and really flow well with the track. Is there a series coming on... ?

justin3am · Post by **justin3am** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:42 am

I'm just about to leave work, I'll listen when I get home. Tag for now.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:52 am

it's a lot like Boulez's Sonata 2, only with less space.

there are many amusing moments in this, though, which I don't tend to get with big ol pierre ya know.

Laguna Rising · Post by **Laguna Rising** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:35 pm

I didn't know this track, never heard before, although I knew what to expect.
Very interesting, much more explosive than the original (find on youtube)
I enjoyed it

Cheers

rp314 · Post by **rp314** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:09 pm

rachmiel wrote:a remix of stockhausen's klavierstueck x, i like to think of this as a solo for pianist with 20 hands (or, alternately, as nancarrow channeling stockhausen)

Nancarrow channeling Stockhausen's Klavierstucke X? For a second there I thought you might have taken the original and done a "tempi canon" as in Nancarrow's amazing Study for player piano #21- Canon X (imagine the work poor ole Conlon put into turning out that piece...

). But I guess there is no connection between one X and the other, huh?

Anyway, great stuff as usual.

rachmiel · Post by **rachmiel** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:58 am

polyslax wrote:Intense! Loaded with wonderful movement and textures that go from raw to trippy. The flexible spaces and delays are a nice touch and really flow well with the track. Is there a series coming on... ?

thanks. :-) i'm working on a set (album-ish) of abstractions and will post a link when it is finished. :-)

rachmiel · Post by **rachmiel** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:59 am

justin3am wrote:I'm just about to leave work, I'll listen when I get home. Tag for now. :)

thanks. :-)

rachmiel · Post by **rachmiel** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:03 am

jancivil wrote::!:

it's a lot like Boulez's Sonata 2, only with less space.

there are many amusing moments in this, though, which I don't tend to get with big ol pierre ya know.

i hope it is not as clinical/cold as l'oeuvre of m. boulez. ;-) not that i have anything against being icy. but i prefer lurid expressionism. :-)

rachmiel · Post by **rachmiel** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:04 am

Laguna Rising wrote:I didn't know this track, never heard before, although I knew what to expect.
Very interesting, much more explosive than the original (find on youtube)
I enjoyed it

Cheers

thanks laguna!

rachmiel · Post by **rachmiel** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:07 am

rp314 wrote:
rachmiel wrote:a remix of stockhausen's klavierstueck x, i like to think of this as a solo for pianist with 20 hands (or, alternately, as nancarrow channeling stockhausen)
Nancarrow channeling Stockhausen's Klavierstucke X? For a second there I thought you might have taken the original and done a "tempi canon" as in Nancarrow's amazing Study for player piano #21- Canon X (imagine the work poor ole Conlon put into turning out that piece...:hail:). But I guess there is no connection between one X and the other, huh? :hihi:

Anyway, great stuff as usual. :clap:

yes, conlon worked very hard. but what else are you going to do with your time? i build reaktor ensembles, variants of variants of variants. dozens of hours into each monstrum. then i move onto to the next. joie de sisyphus? ;-)

rachmiel · Post by **rachmiel** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:11 am

just want to say that it is quite a thrill for me to be in touch with people who have an ear for this kind of music. an ever rarer breed of listener. :-)

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:45 pm

rachmiel wrote:
jancivil wrote:

it's a lot like Boulez's Sonata 2, only with less space.

there are many amusing moments in this, though, which I don't tend to get with big ol pierre ya know.
i hope it is not as clinical/cold as l'oeuvre of m. boulez. not that i have anything against being icy. but i prefer lurid expressionism.

Hmmmm. I donno. It's the same vocabulary, which is always dry, to me.
I didn't find 'lurid' here, but 'cartoony', which is usually a good thing.

I like the swells in the lower mids, the envelopes you arrived at. Which moisten the thing up some.
The same-note trills up high do = 'icy', which isn't an objection, just my subjective take.

I like it a lot, which is something, since its vocab and general style derivation is too "german" by far for my palate.

jopy · Post by **jopy** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:26 pm

as usual, i was asleep at the wheel when you first posted this so my reply is massively delayed.

this turned out really nicely. one of the things i like about the original is the way that those tone clusters smack up against conventional piano sounds in the middle range, and the extremely high end plinging. getting the full range of possible sounds of a piano is a real challenge, and then setting it in time so each "sound" is like a jewel to consider is harder than i think most would imagine. i suppose it's the classical equivalent of cecil taylor (who i had heard before i had heard stockhausen's non-electronic stuff), in that it's all about timbre on an instrument that has a fairly limited set of timbral possibilities.

what i especially like about this remix in particular is the variations in "distance" from the player (echos, reverbs, etc.)--it moves in space alongside the original movements in timbre (except of course you've taken those timbres to an even more mutated place).