KVR Audio

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:13 pm

djanthonyw wrote:A March 2nd release would be amazing!

It would go right along with RMX 1.7. I guess we would have TWO Christmas days in one year!

Brent

dj ray · Post by **dj ray** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:59 pm

djanthonyw wrote:A March 2nd release would be amazing!

Just think, this could be yours tomorrow!

I have another one of those for Cytomic.

djsubject · Post by **djsubject** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:54 am

are these notes mostly used for drugs alcohol & prostitutes?

because the expression on his face is utter disappointment, "you should be ashamed of yourself"

PS is Andy from the US or UK?

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:56 am

I think UK, but my money is from the US.

SuperFly76 · Post by **SuperFly76** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:25 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:The demo method that seems to translate into the most sales with me is the 14-day fully functioning method. I've bought a lot of plugins because they ended up in projects that way.

After that, you could always try the 14 days approach without recall. This way people can hear it without being able to use it in projects. Then after 14 days add a nag screen and have the sound fade out twice a minute.

Me too. I have ended up buying quite a few stillwell plugins because of their generous demo philosophy. Their demo's have a nag screen but other than that they are fully functional. I have all of their demos installed and ready to try out in any project if the need fits. If I end up using it in the project then I immediately purchase it.

I usually think twice if a company offers a demo with dropouts and other nonsense.

I also prefer to install the least amount of stuff on my pc as possible so a demo that can be authorized/changed to the full version is a big +1 in my book.

michu · Post by **michu** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:40 am

djsubject wrote:PS is Andy from the US or UK?

i think Andy is in UK

SWAN808 · Post by **SWAN808** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:30 am

I hate to say it but while I suspect that within KVR (as Angus FX said - who are a self selecting sample of plugin-users)- Stillwell-like demos work because of the freedom of use, positive PR and purchasing from KVR users - I think that outside of KVR users may need more of a nudge to go and pay for the product...after all within KVR we are closely connected to developers and often have more of a relationship and morals around purchasing. I suspect that outsiders with no connection to the plugin community might easily carry on using a Stillwell product without buying for an unlimited amount of time...

I have to admit I am surprised KVRians are so demanding on demo limitations...when you consider how much developers put into plugins, and how much they stand to loose from piracy which can be accessed through demos...I suspect that there are many plugin users outside of KVR that are less scrupulous with their purchasing morals...and I wonder whether that part - that plugin demos are not just made to appease KVR usergroups - is appreciated....

I normally just use a demo to get a quick idea of the plugin capability. I dont see the need to kick up a huge fuss if it has the odd silence or noise...

If I like it and it is priced right - then I'll buy it - simple as.

Im not saying thats how it is - just putting a few ideas out there....

faab · Post by **faab** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:24 am

I talked to my wife and the money is ready for the glue if it's as good as i think it is i will buy it immediately

rhythmtechnologies · Post by **rhythmtechnologies** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:07 pm

SWAN808 wrote:I hate to say it but while I suspect that within KVR (as Angus FX said - who are a self selecting sample of plugin-users)- Stillwell-like demos work because of the freedom of use, positive PR and purchasing from KVR users - I think that outside of KVR users may need more of a nudge to go and pay for the product...after all within KVR we are closely connected to developers and often have more of a relationship and morals around purchasing. I suspect that outsiders with no connection to the plugin community might easily carry on using a Stillwell product without buying for an unlimited amount of time...

I have to admit I am surprised KVRians are so demanding on demo limitations...when you consider how much developers put into plugins, and how much they stand to loose from piracy which can be accessed through demos...I suspect that there are many plugin users outside of KVR that are less scrupulous with their purchasing morals...and I wonder whether that part - that plugin demos are not just made to appease KVR usergroups - is appreciated....

I normally just use a demo to get a quick idea of the plugin capability. I dont see the need to kick up a huge fuss if it has the odd silence or noise...

If I like it and it is priced right - then I'll buy it - simple as.

Im not saying thats how it is - just putting a few ideas out there....

dude theres a whole world of audio forums outside KVR with similiar morals where developers post all the time. infact theres a discussion over at gearslutz (re cytomic) with andy involved going on right now.

i think everyone is looking for better demos now because money is tight and we want to be really really sure before spending 100 on a compressor and the best way to be sure is to test it out in a project and judge on the final product. IMO the best way to do this is a 14 day nag-free demo. after that if i still like it i have to buy it. stillwell maybe be a little on the generous side but it seems to work for them (that and the fact that their plugs are bloody awesome!)

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:59 pm

djsubject wrote: PS is Andy from the US or UK?

I'm Australian, but currently living in London.

Andrew Simper

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:03 pm

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djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:08 pm

If you release it today Andy, I'll throw in one of these:

djanthonyw wrote:A March 2nd release would be amazing!

Just think, this could be yours [EDIT] today!

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:41 pm

Oh the torture!!! I don't know if I can go on!!! If I freeze myself now can I depend on someone here to unfreeze me when it's out?

djsubject · Post by **djsubject** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:44 pm

andy_cytomic wrote:
djsubject wrote: PS is Andy from the US or UK?
I'm Australian, but currently living in London.

Andrew Simper

i guess we will both be fighting over you

"no hes ours!"

"NO! HE IS OURS"

SWAN808 · Post by **SWAN808** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:17 pm

this is getting a bit gay isnt it?

Cytomic 'The Glue' Compressor