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polyslax · Post by **polyslax** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:12 pm

michu wrote:
The Glue Trial Beta limitations of the are:
* Timeout after 14 days
* No load, no paste, no parameter automation

http://cytomic.com/downloads/Cytomic_Th ... Mac_Au.zip
http://cytomic.com/downloads/Cytomic_Th ... ac_Vst.zip
http://cytomic.com/downloads/Cytomic_Th ... in_Vst.zip

If you have tested the beta and you are happy enough to part your hard earned cash for it then you can get your build by sending $99 usd through paypal to sales atsign cytomic dotsign com and I'll get you a build within the next 24 hours since I have to process the orders manually at the moment.

Please also include your preferred registration name that will show up on the user interface eg Registered to Andrew Simper, and preferred email address for the registration.

Thanks michu!

kechambe · Post by **kechambe** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:37 pm

This thing really is impressive.

Anybody wanna buy a UAD Quad with all the plugins?

S1GN4L · Post by **S1GN4L** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:43 pm

23rdmonkey wrote: also: how does the peakclip function work? i'm hearing something like an analogue modeled drive going on, but it seems that the curve is relatively steep, i think i would prefer it softer.. sounds like hardclipping as it is now.

I sent an email to andy this afternoon asking some clarifications about the peakclip mode and this was his reply (hope he doesnt mind me posting this)

The Peak Clip is a fairly aggressive soft clip for transients so you would expect a slight rounding of the signal right near the edge then flat. It is not a peak limiter, which is a form of compressor, although you can use The Glue as a limiter in it's own right. It's not a digital clip which has no rounding at all.

I wouldnt mind some sort of softsaturation stage before (or after?) the peakclip aswell, but i suppose it's not really in the plan.

Anyway,i'm really in love with the sound of this compressor,so punchy and solid

and andy is a really nice person aswell, he answered to my mail in less than 5 minutes after sending it.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:12 pm

23rdmonkey wrote:ok, i've been playing with the trial and i'm really impressed!
it's versatile and really punchy in a drumgroup.
the range knob is a powerful addition, it's just genius to be able to control the gain reduction in such a way.

23rdmonkey wrote:i have a couple of questions: what is the typical range value of the original SSL comp? i suppose that there are values that simulate the original more faithfully..

For units with 18 V rails for the sidechain use around -72 dB, for older units with 15 V rails use -60 dB.

23rdmonkey wrote:also: how does the peakclip function work? i'm hearing something like an analogue modeled drive going on, but it seems that the curve is relatively steep, i think i would prefer it softer.. sounds like hardclipping as it is now.

I did have it softer but thought it would be better with the extra range. It's a simple waveshaper post compressor, but with a linear shape, then bend at the edges till it's full clip. I agree that softening if off a little will be a good idea and will do that for the next build.

23rdmonkey wrote:really really good job on this! dude, you should make more compressors! imagine a bundle of three-four compressors in the same league as the Glue.. i'm wetting my pants (especially if you do a dirty distressor-inspired one)

That's the plan!

Andrew Simper

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:25 pm

A note on the peak clip, it is not anti-aliased since this will introduce resampling artifacts, if you want it oversampled the best way is to run your whole project at a higher sample rate. Also since peaks are non-harmonic you don't really notice the odd transient being shaped if the compressor is on the correct setting. You will notice it on big sine waves or other harmonic content, but on peaks it's fine.

In the end if you don't like the idea of putting your whole mix through a waveshaper then you can switch if off

Andrew Simper

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:36 pm

andy_cytomic wrote:
23rdmonkey wrote:really really good job on this! dude, you should make more compressors! imagine a bundle of three-four compressors in the same league as the Glue.. i'm wetting my pants (especially if you do a dirty distressor-inspired one)
That's the plan!

Andrew Simper

That's a great plan! Can't wait to see what you do next...(Distressor, LA2A, or 1176LN get my vote)

23rdmonkey · Post by **23rdmonkey** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:08 pm

For units with 18 V rails for the sidechain use around -72 dB, for older units with 15 V rails use -60 dB.

ok, i see thanks. i think that the default value of -40db sounds good on most material, it's a good starting point

I did have it softer but thought it would be better with the extra range. It's a simple waveshaper post compressor, but with a linear shape, then bend at the edges till it's full clip. I agree that softening if off a little will be a good idea and will do that for the next build.

yeah, i think it would be better and more useful as well, but in the end it's not that important.

That's the plan!

yes!

another note: i love the sound on the fastest attack setting. it tames the drum transients but they still sound punchy, they kind of retain their impact, especially in combination with the range knob. i was looking for something like this for a long time.. it sounds superb

adl · Post by **adl** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:22 pm

Playing around with the demo for some hours: really a nice comp you did there

Testing it against the UAD Precision Buss Compressor, which is so far my "glueing" comp and i must say "the glue" helds up damn nice!

Seems to me that "the glue" is a tad less open sounding and more colorful than Precision Buss Comp. But it has really punch and a nice pumping sound. Will test some more...

Still not quiet sure what the "range" knob does...

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:33 pm

Jay-Producer wrote:Andy,

is there any chance you (and anyone else) can stick up Audio examples comparing the Glue to other compressors.

If, so please use each compressor on the same source with the same settings (or similar). And I will then post them up on my thread so everyone can hear the differences.

Thanx :0)

When I launch the web page I will make sure to have A/B comparisons to the original analog hardware.

Andrew Simper

Jay-Producer · Post by **Jay-Producer** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:34 pm

Where's this Vienna Compressor comparison?

Im still waiting

C.Bennett · Post by **C.Bennett** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:35 pm

andy_cytomic wrote: When I launch the web page I will make sure to have A/B comparisons to the original analog hardware.

Andrew Simper

Hi Andy

Would love a reply to the e-mail I sent yesterday if you can find a few mins.

Thanks,
Colin

haudegen · Post by **haudegen** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:35 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
That's a great plan! Can't wait to see what you do next...(Distressor, LA2A, or 1176LN get my vote)

can't imagine what would be if those plugins will be released

i would also suggesst a compressor with feedback mode (e.g a API 2500 model

)

this question could be stupid, but what is the current price of The Glue in EURO?

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:37 pm

23rdmonkey wrote:another note: i love the sound on the fastest attack setting. it tames the drum transients but they still sound punchy, they kind of retain their impact, especially in combination with the range knob. i was looking for something like this for a long time.. it sounds superb

The range knob is essential if you want to use ultra fast attack times since it keeps the compressor from diving too deep and pumping your sound, a range setting of -15 dB is great to hold off enough that you get a quick but controlled sound.

I really hope that people will get into using the Range knob since I think it sounds way better than doing parallel compression using the Wet Mix.

Andrew Simper

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:38 pm

haudegen wrote:...
i would also suggesst a compressor with feedback mode (e.g a API 2500 model )this question could be stupid, but what is the current price of The Glue in EURO?

Check Xe for the euro price, it's $99 usd.

Feedback mode? The Glue is a feedback compressor.

Andrew Simper

jjsr · Post by **jjsr** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:39 pm

99 USD = nearly 75 € at this moment

Cytomic 'The Glue' Compressor