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andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:52 pm

Compyfox wrote:
andy_cytomic wrote:Not For Retail, that subject line in the email was the one left over from me sending emails to my core testers and musos using The Glue.

Andrew Simper
So beta testers get NFR's and regular consumers later a "normal" license? There's a controvery started over at the market place that TheGlue will be a "not for resale" plugin.

Btw how can someone buying the glue get a copy that is not for sale?

Andrew Simper

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:55 pm

Retail != Resale

Andrew Simper

Mercado_Negro · Post by **Mercado_Negro** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:57 pm

Andrew I found something, If I set my range to -5dB the needle does not reach that value on the meter, I have to take it to -6dB so it can reach the -5dB value. Maybe I'm missing something obvious here, not sure though:

Thanks for your time.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:02 pm

Mercado_Negro wrote:Andrew I found something, If I set my range to -5dB the needle does not reach that value on the meter, I have to take it to -6dB so it can reach the -5dB value. Maybe I'm missing something obvious here, not sure though

Thanks for your time.

Due to the nature of the way the circuit works there are different offsets and levels and corrections all going on that make the compressor have a slightly different behaviour with different settings. In effect the Range knob is accurate to within +- 1 dB and will change with different attack / release and ratio settings.

Andrew Simper

Mercado_Negro · Post by **Mercado_Negro** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:16 pm

andy_cytomic wrote:Due to the nature of the way the circuit works there are different offsets and levels and corrections all going on that make the compressor have a slightly different behaviour with different settings. In effect the Range knob is accurate to within +- 1 dB and will change with different attack / release and ratio settings.

Andrew Simper

Thanks for the information. Like you said it changes with different material and attack/release values. One question: is -0.5dBfs the maximum value we can reach when the peakclip is engaged? I ask this because it'd be nice to use The Glue as a mastering compressor with a -0.1dBfs limit.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:17 pm

I have decided on a current license transfer policy which I will not increase, but may decrease for final launch.

Interim License Transfer Policy for Cytomic:
* In effect a license transfer will become a new purchase as I will blacklist the old serial number and give the new user a new one.
* Transfers only allowed only after 6 Months has passed since the purchase / last transfer / most recent downloaded update.
* A charge of 10% of the current purchase price will be applicable to process the transfer.

Andrew Simper

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:22 pm

Mercado_Negro wrote:Thanks for the information. Like you said it changes with different material and attack/release values. One question: is -0.5dBfs the maximum value we can reach when the peakclip is engaged? I ask this because it'd be nice to use The Glue as a mastering compressor with a -0.1dBfs limit.

-0.5 dBfs is the fixed limit as this gives you enough headroom to take into account possible clipping caused by resampling or mp3 compression. If you would prefer a different limit then I suggest switching off the peak clip function and use your favourite waveshaper post The Glue, as in effect it's the same thing

Andrew Simper

adl · Post by **adl** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:23 pm

Hi Andrew, what is the date again before the glue gets official released and become more expensive?
Thanx in advance for any info (i know i read it somewhere but can't remember on which page...somewhere between 70 and 91

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Mercado_Negro · Post by **Mercado_Negro** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:32 pm

andy_cytomic wrote:-0.5 dBfs is the fixed limit as this gives you enough headroom to take into account possible clipping caused by resampling or mp3 compression. If you would prefer a different limit then I suggest switching off the peak clip function and use your favourite waveshaper post The Glue, as in effect it's the same thing

Andrew Simper

Thanks again for the quick response Andrew... Looking forward to the manual soon. Take care!

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:39 pm

adl wrote:Hi Andrew, what is the date again before the glue gets official released and become more expensive?
Thanx in advance for any info (i know i read it somewhere but can't remember on which page...somewhere between 70 and 91 )

The final date is not yet set, but I hope to finish the web page before the end of March. The price will increase only by me including sales tax / vat, but the pre tax price will remain at $99 usd.

Andrew Simper

Vitaly · Post by **Vitaly** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:44 pm

Hi,

Nice compressor!

I'm playing around with demo and so far I had no luck with rendering files in Wavelab6 (PC). I can hear the plug-in working in real time but after rendering a file stays the same. A bug?

Cheers,
Vitaly.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:03 am

andy_cytomic wrote:I have decided up a current license transfer policy which I will not increase, but may decrease for final launch.

This might scare off some of the "fast sellers", but personally I'm fine with that. I was just asking IN CASE I'd like (or need to) sell my license due to reasons unknown.

Jay-Producer · Post by **Jay-Producer** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:43 am

Lets do a little round up here people:

There have been lots of comparisons so lets compare it on drums and whole tracks to the other compressors:

Drums:

Glue Vs Rocket - for me Rocket sounded smoother
Glue Vs FabFilter Pro C - for me Fabfilter sounded slightly better
Glue Vs PSP MixPressor2 - still to hear an audio example?

Whole tracks:

Glue V Waves SSL - Ive still to hear the audio example given.
Glue V Sonalksis SSV315 - SSV sound way better to me.
The Glue V SSL mix bus compressor clone - Glue was better.

What are your opinions?

Audio examples can be heard here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=245406

I will put in brackets which one has the most votes for the V comparison.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:59 am

So in short: The Glue doesn't cut it?

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:30 am

Vitaly wrote:Hi,

Nice compressor!

I'm playing around with demo and so far I had no luck with rendering files in Wavelab6 (PC). I can hear the plug-in working in real time but after rendering a file stays the same. A bug?

Cheers,
Vitaly.

This is not a bug when using the Trial version. If you are using a host like wavelab or audition what tends to happen is they save the settings, then load a new version of the plugin in a new thread, then load the settings, then render, then quit. This will not work with the Trial version since load is disabled, so you will need to bounce the audio live and not use render mode.

Andrew Simper

Cytomic 'The Glue' Compressor