Cytomic 'The Glue' Compressor

[living sounds]

Why this GUI-obsession? Use it to make music, as long as it's practical to use it doesn't matter how it looks. People caring for fancy GUIs should get another hobby. This had to be said.

[Gucky]

Hi andy_cytomic,
I just tested the demo version of glue and I like it.

A question: I am not an expert in compressors.
For that reason it would be good to have a comp plug with presets for
different compression tasks like mastering, guitar, piano....
Has the full version such presets?

[andy-cytomic]

Hi andy_cytomic,
I just tested the demo version of glue and I like it.

A question: I am not an expert in compressors.
For that reason it would be good to have a comp plug with presets for
different compression tasks like mastering, guitar, piano....
Has the full version such presets?

The full version will ship with presets, but the beta currently has none. The Trial version can't ship with presets since it can't load.

[mystran]

Here's a rough sketch of my idea how it could look (sorry for dreaming and cutting your Plugin into pieces ) !

The army and flower power versions look cool as hell, though on the flower power the white text could benefit from being redone in black for better contrast. Definitely more interesting designs than the "more 3D than you" crap that is so common nowadays.

[bmanic]

LOL! How do you find the needle graphic? I tried to match the look and feel of the real needle as much as possible so that people used to the hardware would be at home.

The needle is Very nice.
I feel that my meter have a little more inertia to it and maybe you could ease back on the motion blur a little. But this is really knit picking/or just my personal preference. (Also I have a black needle on white/cream background)

So it does its job and stays out of the way, just like a good meter should.
(Maybe a boring description but that's how I think about it)
//L

I agree.. the motion blur is way over done. The needle is ok but not as smooth as I had hoped it'd be after mentioning it is physical modeled. A similar needle and also physical modeled can be found in Softube's FET compressor which is much better done.

Still, it's not bad at all and only moderately distracting.

Cheers!
bManic

[Vitaly]

Hi,

Nice compressor!

I'm playing around with demo and so far I had no luck with rendering files in Wavelab6 (PC). I can hear the plug-in working in real time but after rendering a file stays the same. A bug?

Cheers,
Vitaly.

This is not a bug when using the Trial version. If you are using a host like wavelab or audition what tends to happen is they save the settings, then load a new version of the plugin in a new thread, then load the settings, then render, then quit. This will not work with the Trial version since load is disabled, so you will need to bounce the audio live and not use render mode.

Andrew Simper

I see. Thanks!

[sureno]

LOL! How do you find the needle graphic? I tried to match the look and feel of the real needle as much as possible so that people used to the hardware would be at home.

The needle is Very nice.
I feel that my meter have a little more inertia to it and maybe you could ease back on the motion blur a little. But this is really knit picking/or just my personal preference. (Also I have a black needle on white/cream background)

So it does its job and stays out of the way, just like a good meter should.
(Maybe a boring description but that's how I think about it)
//L

I agree.. the motion blur is way over done. The needle is ok but not as smooth as I had hoped it'd be after mentioning it is physical modeled. A similar needle and also physical modeled can be found in Softube's FET compressor which is much better done.

Still, it's not bad at all and only moderately distracting.

Cheers!
bManic

have to agree with the blur being over done, occasionally it freezes too

[filterfilter]

Lets do a little round up here people:


There have been lots of comparisons so lets compare it on drums and whole tracks to the other compressors:

Drums:

Glue Vs Rocket - for me Rocket sounded smoother
Glue Vs FabFilter Pro C - for me Fabfilter sounded slightly better
Glue Vs PSP MixPressor2 - still to hear an audio example?

Whole tracks:

Glue V Waves SSL - Ive still to hear the audio example given.
Glue V Sonalksis SSV315 - SSV sound way better to me.
The Glue V SSL mix bus compressor clone - Glue was better.

What are your opinions?

Audio examples can be heard here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=245406


I will put in brackets which one has the most votes for the V comparison.

I've tried all of this comp-plugins, and I was never really satisfied with any comp-plugin, until I tried The Rocket, wich is a great software! Now I checked out The Glue, and it is different from the rocket, but also great! Both sound very musical, and that is what most other plugins lack.

[rydan]

It could well have been that this was caused by the audio being sent through two sets of converters, one from digital to analog, and one from analog to digital to allow processing of the signal through the analog hardware. A fairer test would involve having a loopback signal (ie completely dry with just the effect of the converters) and process that signal with The Glue and compare the two.

You're not much for bragging eh? =D

[andy-cytomic]

It could well have been that this was caused by the audio being sent through two sets of converters, one from digital to analog, and one from analog to digital to allow processing of the signal through the analog hardware. A fairer test would involve having a loopback signal (ie completely dry with just the effect of the converters) and process that signal with The Glue and compare the two.

You're not much for bragging eh? =D

In all honesty I think the original hardware should sound best, it will have no aliasing from transient shaping, even though it should have the same type of distortion. So when people prefer The Glue over the original I'm sceptical. I'm happy if people find it difficult to tell which is which, since being a plugin I have other advantages over analog hardware, like the fact you can run 10 copies and have total recall and automation in your project.

Andrew Simper

[andy-cytomic]

@haudegen and
@Mercado_Negro

I have been thinking about license legalities and I have come up with something that I think is fair, please let me know what you think.

License Agreement:

You can install a single license of The Glue on two machines at once, and run them simultaneously if you so choose but only for a a single project or for a single client. There is no limit to the physical location of the two machines.

This is ideal for people:
- with a studio with a recording room and a mixing room.
- in a band with multiple members working on a album where you can effectively halve the number of licenses you need.
- with two computers that chops and changes which one they use and sometimes uses both.
- working on a remix project with a colleague.

What do you think?

Andrew Simper

[timothyallan]

like the fact you can run 10 copies and have total recall and automation in your project.

That's the tipping point for me Nothin like having 3 or 4 submix channels each running an SSL with total recall.

[haudegen]

Andy you are my man money is on the way to paypal ^^

[Mercado_Negro]

@haudegen and
@Mercado_Negro

I have been thinking about license legalities and I have come up with something that I think is fair, please let me know what you think.

License Agreement:

You can install a single license of The Glue on two machines at once, and run them simultaneously if you so choose but only for a a single project or for a single client. There is no limit to the physical location of the two machines.

This is ideal for people:
- with a studio with a recording room and a mixing room.
- in a band with multiple members working on a album where you can effectively halve the number of licenses you need.
- with two computers that chops and changes which one they use and sometimes uses both.
- working on a remix project with a colleague.

What do you think?

Andrew Simper

Hello Andrew,

I think your product's license legalities are fair, honestly. But today I lived a situation in which I didn't know what to do. Right now I'm using The Glue as a tracking compressor (amazing tool for such task btw), so I was recording a voice over and my brother had to mixed a song in our mixing/mastering room (different clients, obviously). I talked to him yesterday about your policies and today before mixing he asked me about if he could use The Glue (I was tracking in that moment). I need to be honest with you I told him "use it". Why? Well, I thought that if we're working on the same studio and we have two rooms, one for mixing and another for tracking/recording we'll never be able to mix a song that's being recorded. I really appreciate your intentions and I like the way your driving this matter but maybe, you can consider the use of your product in 2 rooms if they are used for tracking/recording and mixing. If you decide to not allow this then I'll have to forget the idea about using The Glue for tracking, a sad descision in my case.

I hope you can sort this out soon because I want to make my descision, for tracking or not for tracking... that's the/my question

[timothyallan]

If you are going to stop using it for tracking/mixing at the same time to save a hundred bucks, you may want to rethink your client rates