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vespers75 wrote:
Muzik 4 Machines wrote:its ok I get it I wont post here anymore sorry
but at 8-900 views a day I surely interest somebody to hear real live stuff
anyway, farewell music cafe

i don't promote the "music" i promote the performance of the said music, which in this case is pretty accessory (in a rave full of stoned people, i played a kick alone for minutes and got applauded, so they just don't care what plays as long as there is a 4 on the floor beat to it

but i get your point, i wont use YOUR precious cafe for my electro stuff, ill leave it to all the experimental/ambiant posters and keep on posting it on youtube where i get new subscribers everyday without the "help" of any of those forums of people, as i understand it, prefer to listen to experimental/studio cheats instead

i did the studio/super editing/nitpicking for years before most people could even produce sound from their computer, and i got tired of it and decided to go back to the raw, live music instead of faking it in a sequencer with unlimited possibilities
experimental/studio cheats? Nobody was attacking your choice of musical style that you work in...so why are you attacking the method of musical expression others choose? Interesting you should be downing the use of sequencers, studio editing, computer use, etc. considering KVR is at heart a forum for audio plug ins. That is the nature of this place. That being said, it doesn't mean this place is soley for the experimental/ambient crowd as you have insinuated. Also interesting that you make the comment about faking things with the use of sequencers/computers while discussing your electro stuff with 4 on the floor beats in the same post. There are plenty of multi-instrumentalists here as well, and dare I say some that have more time and experience in the field of music than yourself. Please keep that in mind while you're disrepecting the forum you've been posting stuff in daily for quite some time.

Anyhow, this is not to say you shouldn't do whatever music you like...that is your right and your choice, of course. People were only recommending that you should develop your ideas into completed songs before you post them, instead of spamming the cafe daily with some partial live jams or whatever. No, its not anyone else's cafe as you have alluded to, but its not exclusively yours either. Again, it also comes down to showing some respect for other artists' work and letting others share their material here as well.

i wasnt dissing anybody's music, but the people complaining about my post are always form the experimental crow, not the teckie/electro crowd

and the faking, i mean, i use to play live with computers and thing that were so prepared we almost didnt even play anything for real on stage and it was boring for the audience, and we felt like cheaters(for me a gig is a challenge, something thrilling, i need to "play" as much as possible, be it on guitar on in electronic

anyway, happens i'm moving and start packing very soon, so cafe or not, there will be no music for me in the next month or so cause everything will be roadcased
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Muzik 4 Machines wrote:form the experimental crow
I'm gonna have to steal that as a song title.

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lol
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Muzik 4 Machines wrote:anyway, happens i'm moving and start packing very soon, so cafe or not, there will be no music for me in the next month or so cause everything will be roadcased
damn :wink:

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Muzik 4 Machines wrote:its ok I get it I wont post here anymore sorry
but at 8-900 views a day I surely interest somebody to hear real live stuff
anyway, farewell music cafe
I enjoy your material, and I get insights into your process by listening to your works in progress.

KVR will be poorer, IMHO.

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Muzik 4 Machines wrote:i did the studio/super editing/nitpicking for years before most people could even produce sound from their computer, and i got tired of it and decided to go back to the raw, live music instead of faking it in a sequencer with unlimited possibilities
I did the complete opposite. I played with a similar (but slightly more archaic) set up to yours for just over 15 years with nothing to record onto but a 2 track tape machine or a 4 track tascam recorder (I did some studio work every few years, tbh, but most of my recordings were 'live'). But most of what I have made this last 8 or so years has been based on my original midi files and samples and skills created during that long time period of touring the US, live jamming, and non-"cheating". After all that time being so restricted and limited to my two hands and feet, I feel liberated studio/super editing/nitpicking.

And, to be clear, no one has asked you to leave KVR. SO, please don't read into it that way. You obviously post stuff to get some feedback. Well, this would be feedback. And thats all it is. :)

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not leaving Kvr, but i won't bother posting to the cafe if it bother people, i'm not that much of an ass :)(and it'll save me an average of 30 GB of bandwidth a month from KvR only)

the reason i do that live thing is because i was having too many possibilities, which led me to a creative hole of like 3 years without being able to compose/finish anything, then i went the so simple way(drums plus 2 monophonic tracks only) and bang! creativity came back with the limits (like it was flowing when on my 4 tracks/707 music days)
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i like your stuff. i'm cleaning house to it right now

i don't come to the cafe either. i wouldn't be here now if i hadn't followed the crow
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest

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iphone barf(mobile safari is SO bad at forms)
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Muzik 4 Machines wrote:iphone barf(mobile safari is SO bad at forms)
your iphone sent "LOL" accidentally?
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest

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androidlove wrote:i like your stuff. i'm cleaning house to it right now

i don't come to the cafe either. i wouldn't be here now if i hadn't followed the crow
So you came as the crow flies :D
It wasn't me! (well, actually, it probably was) - apparently no longer an 'elderly', now a 'senior'! Is that promotion?

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androidlove wrote:
Muzik 4 Machines wrote:iphone barf(mobile safari is SO bad at forms)
your iphone sent "LOL" accidentally?
i had posted the lol yeaterday at the mention of "form the experimental crow"
and this morning, i start mobile safari and it reposts it as i refresh my home pages one by one(i probably quit it on the "view your post/go back to forum" page and the refresh re-posted it i guess)
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Please don't leave or stop posting in the Cafe altogether. I yield the remainder of my March 2009 Cafe time to the gentleman from Saint-Clin-Clin-Des-Meu-Meu.
Regards, Mike
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thanks mn, pretty late i know, but i just tried a search to see if there was any music cafe thread replies i had missed, i guess yours is a mised one

also, re read this page, thanks to every supportive member of this forum
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