Cytomic 'The Glue' Compressor

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michu wrote: scoobz, can i ask you to make a simple test with uad?
Actually better than just the sin/cos test, if someone wants to run test signals, then try this one: http://mystran.googlepages.com/stereotest.wav

settings: attack / release as fast (as long as it doesn't cause distortion: it's a static test but I didn't feel like making the file three minutes long), ratio to 10 (the more the merrier), and calibrate threshold such that the first beep is about 10dB or so (15 shouldn't hurt) into compression... and don't bother with makeup (don't wanna clip stuff and levels really don't matter as long as they are above noise floor).

Contents of the file? There's some sinewaves.. mid channel moved to left channel (equal power to the mid channel version, tests stereo summing), then mixed with another frequency on purely side channel (sanity check for M/S processing) and finally a few sines of different amplitudes to do a rough map of the compression curve just in case it's not a pure 10:1 compression.

edit (1.4.2009): had adl run the test on UAD, and run the test on the renewed demo period from 1.0.10 for the Glue.. turns out in static test it looks like UAD runs on L/R sum (or average, same thing) and Glue runs on L/R max. No idea if they sum/max/average/whatever before or after side-chains, and frankly I don't personally care... but one would expect UAD to push things into more compression with middle-panned signal that equal power side-panned signal (which could kinda widen things), and glue to do the opposite (which could kinda narrow things); in both cases you have exactly preserved stereo image IFF the amount of the compression remains static, but obviously that won't happen in realistic music, and with UAD reacting less, and the Glue more, to sounds panned to left/right (at least as long as they aren't overpanned to the "side" channel).. you got balance changes depending on how things are panned. :P
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side chaining has stopped working in 1.0.9????
1.0.8 worked

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Fraid I can't do the tests, I don't have either plugin! ;)

I just tweaked adl's example to show they weren't world's apart and that the UAD was upping the stereo info a bit.

Adl, I don't know the vst I used, it's one of those mysterious plugins that made it into my directory, it has no GUI and is simply called m/s. Sorry I can't be more help :(

I've gotta wait till all the bugs are ironed out then I figure andy will get time to do the logic 5.5 version ;)

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well i was going to buy it but since i can get cubase vst 5.2 to see the plugin im going to have to pass, dont want to buy it and not have it end up not using it my host(cubase vst 5.2) this is a great compressor great job on this andy :tu:

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scoobz wrote: Adl, I don't know the vst I used, it's one of those mysterious plugins that made it into my directory, it has no GUI and is simply called m/s. Sorry I can't be more help :(
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cain wrote:well i was going to buy it but since i can get cubase vst 5.2 to see the plugin im going to have to pass, dont want to buy it and not have it end up not using it my host(cubase vst 5.2) this is a great compressor great job on this andy :tu:
There are still a couple of bugs that I am ironing out with different hosts / architectures. These won't take too long to fix, but till the trial version is working how you want it to on your host I would recommend not buying The Glue.

Andrew Simper
The Glue, The Drop, The Scream - www.cytomic.com

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no sidechaining in cubase 5 in 1.09 sorry to say.

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faab wrote:no sidechaining in cubase 5 in 1.09 sorry to say.
Thanks for confirming! Looks like nobody really cares, though....

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Franzel wrote:
faab wrote:no sidechaining in cubase 5 in 1.09 sorry to say.
Thanks for confirming! Looks like nobody really cares, though....
I do really really care, but Andy confirmed that it is not working in v1.09. I'm hoping he is fixing it soon!!
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Morris wrote:
Franzel wrote:
faab wrote:no sidechaining in cubase 5 in 1.09 sorry to say.
Thanks for confirming! Looks like nobody really cares, though....
I do really really care, but Andy confirmed that it is not working in v1.09. I'm hoping he is fixing it soon!!
Thanks Morris, but where did Andy confirm this? Must have missed it, otherwise I wouldn't keep posting about the issue. I was actually a little disturbed by the fact that my posts seemed to be ignored.....

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Franzel wrote:
Morris wrote:
Franzel wrote:
faab wrote:no sidechaining in cubase 5 in 1.09 sorry to say.
Thanks for confirming! Looks like nobody really cares, though....
I do really really care, but Andy confirmed that it is not working in v1.09. I'm hoping he is fixing it soon!!
Thanks Morris, but where did Andy confirm this? Must have missed it, otherwise I wouldn't keep posting about the issue. I was actually a little disturbed by the fact that my posts seemed to be ignored.....
Here: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 41#3524441

Andrew Simper
The Glue, The Drop, The Scream - www.cytomic.com

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Just a quick note to say I'll be off to Musikmesse tomorrow, and hopefully I'll be able to chat to some people at Steinberg since they have not replied to any of my emails or posts to mailing lists thus far (edit: requesting being added to their developer program). I am without any developer version of Steinberg software, which makes testing quite difficult, as I can't debug at all in Cubase. Sorry if you are having Cubase problems, but as soon as I have a copy of Cubase I will be able to do something about it.

As I have always said for this beta, please don't buy The Glue unless you are happy with the Trial version since it's the same as the full one with respect to host compatibility.

Andrew Simper
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andy_cytomic wrote:
As I have always said for this beta, please don't buy The Glue unless you are happy with the Trial version since it's the same as the full one with respect to host compatibility.
Will people who have tested and experienced host related issues have the ability to demo The Glue again at a later time after those issues may have been resolved?

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
andy_cytomic wrote:
As I have always said for this beta, please don't buy The Glue unless you are happy with the Trial version since it's the same as the full one with respect to host compatibility.
Will people who have tested and experienced host related issues have the ability to demo The Glue again at a later time after those issues may have been resolved?
Definitely. The v1.0.10 Trial will reset everyone's 2 week period.

Andrew Simper
The Glue, The Drop, The Scream - www.cytomic.com

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