VST like Paul's Stretch

[eduardo_b]

I built a grainular delay in Reaktor specifically for live time stretching (now only if I could get it to do live time compression ). It has up to a three minute buffer and can stretch incoming audio up to 32x. Grain size, stretch amount, traversal speed, grain density, pitch, feedback, direction, etc are all modulation destinations so when you feed vocals or whatever to it you can get very smooth stretches that morph into very odd time distortions. It's a lot of fun to play with using a live vocal or guitar, especially when you invite the envelope follower to play.

Once I finished fine tuning the knob ranges and get some nasty bugs worked out I'll re-release it.

You're gonna make me reinstall Reaktor, aren't you. So rather than rendering a file it stretches the incoming signal forever. Yes, this has possibilities.

[eduardo_b]

granulab is a standalone but it has live in and out??

Granulab? Not seeing this listed in the thread.

[vespers75]

Have no idea how much actual stretching Melodyne does.

It stretches quite a bit. Watch the following video demonstrating Score FX, which is based on the Melodyne engine/software:

http://www.ueberschall.com/fileadmin/co ... h_Demo.swf

[dover666]

yeah.... do you know granny chops it?

[vurt]

I built a grainular delay in Reaktor specifically for live time stretching (now only if I could get it to do live time compression ). It has up to a three minute buffer and can stretch incoming audio up to 32x. Grain size, stretch amount, traversal speed, grain density, pitch, feedback, direction, etc are all modulation destinations so when you feed vocals or whatever to it you can get very smooth stretches that morph into very odd time distortions. It's a lot of fun to play with using a live vocal or guitar, especially when you invite the envelope follower to play.

Once I finished fine tuning the knob ranges and get some nasty bugs worked out I'll re-release it.

You're gonna make me reinstall Reaktor, aren't you. So rather than rendering a file it stretches the incoming signal forever. Yes, this has possibilities.

if you have reaktor, why not load it up anyway, for granular stuff its a no brainer really

and justin, make sure you pm me when thats available, i dont wanna miss that

[eduardo_b]

yeah.... do you know granny chops it?

Found it. Gray on gray UI with sliders. Micro-chopper more than stretching.

[eduardo_b]

if you have reaktor, why not load it up anyway, for granular stuff its a no brainer really

I uninstalled it because there weren't many ensembles that I found useful, and keeping track of hundreds of them was impossible. What was what and where was what were two constant questions. Not tidy at all.

Funny how all the granular stuff but Paul's doesn't have the smoothness when stretching that it does. I'm guessing after well over two years he's not rushing out a VST version or a new interface for the standalone. But it works nicely.

[justin3am]

Vurt, I'll let you know, but there are a few concepts I'm struggling with that are holding things up. I'm also terrible at making interfaces and I'm embarrassed to put it out as is.

@eduardo_b: I may be tripping but I seem to remember someone working on a VST shell for Paul's Stretch. I'll see what I can dig up.

[vespers75]

if you have reaktor, why not load it up anyway, for granular stuff its a no brainer really

I uninstalled it because there weren't many ensembles that I found useful, and keeping track of hundreds of them was impossible. What was what and where was what were two constant questions. Not tidy at all.

Funny how all the granular stuff but Paul's doesn't have the smoothness when stretching that it does. I'm guessing after well over two years he's not rushing out a VST version or a new interface for the standalone. But it works nicely.

I thought I read somewhere that a vst 'stretch on the fly' version of paulstretch was impractical for whatever reasons. Personally, I don't see what the problem is using it as a standalone as compared to a plug-in. I use it rather frequently myself.

[22tape]

I may be tripping but I seem to remember someone working on a VST shell for Paul's Stretch. I'll see what I can dig up.

[eduardo_b]

if you have reaktor, why not load it up anyway, for granular stuff its a no brainer really

I uninstalled it because there weren't many ensembles that I found useful, and keeping track of hundreds of them was impossible. What was what and where was what were two constant questions. Not tidy at all.

Funny how all the granular stuff but Paul's doesn't have the smoothness when stretching that it does. I'm guessing after well over two years he's not rushing out a VST version or a new interface for the standalone. But it works nicely.

I thought I read somewhere that a vst 'stretch on the fly' version of paulstretch was impractical for whatever reasons. Personally, I don't see what the problem is using it as a standalone as compared to a plug-in. I use it rather frequently myself.

I was thinking of processing live with it, but if there is an issue with doing so, then rendering files with the standalone is just fine. As you say, it does work well.

[vurt]

just press play, tweak it as it plays and record the output

i like doing this on vocal snips, if you start at full stretch and slowly bring it up to around 1.5 - 2 times, it goes from to die for ambient backdrrop to recogniable and sounds really nice doing it, as long as you move the slider in smallish increments in can run smoothly and can sound awesome imo!!!

i do this by running it out of the laptop through a few chains of guitar fx (with splitters) and record on the main pc.
you could probably record internally too, depending on your card i imagine, or send it out through a channel on your ccard and input on a mixer.

failing that a headphone out into a walkman with record to tape, get some tape artifacts for free

[eduardo_b]

i like doing this on vocal snips, if you start at full stretch and slowly bring it up to around 1.5 - 2 times, it goes from to die for ambient backdrrop to recogniable and sounds really nice doing it, as long as you move the slider in smallish increments in can run smoothly and can sound awesome imo!!!

Never thought of actually moving the slider while it's playing, but that does seem like a really interesting idea. Your using hardware guitar fx from the description, but I'm assuming it would work with software versions chained and then recorded in the host. Or is there an issue with playing a wav file and recording simultaneously -- never actually tried doing this.

[vurt]

there shouldnt be a problem rcording fx automation on a wav file.
i see no real problem doing it on an audio input either, depending on your host and machine speed and such like

but yeah i generally use some guitar fx, or reaktor, or some vsts, or anything that bends noise.

[vurt]

dont be copying me though

be original