KVR Audio

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:36 am

synthesizer808 wrote:Your agenda was to miscredit me.

You can keep praising developers while you ride the upgrade-bandwagon for 5more versions OR you can speak up and bring attention to things that need attention, which I did.

Nobody had an agenda. People just pointed out where you were wrong.

So a positive thread means that people are saying software is perfect? You seem to want nothing but to start a host war. Nobody criticized Reaper, though there is plenty there to criticize(as there is with any host). You're so awesome for coming along and (mis)informing us!

Brent

synthesizer808 · Post by **synthesizer808** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:39 am

Nothing I said was misinformation, spinned yes, but not misinformation

I really dont get why you people get so worked up EVERY single time someone clanks down on a piece of software.

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:39 am

synthesizer808 wrote:Your agenda was to miscredit me.

You can keep praising developers while you ride the upgrade-bandwagon for 5more versions OR you can speak up and bring attention to things that need attention, which I did.

No. You brought attention to things that were 100% false and we corrected them. The things you said that were true we didn't comment on did we? I only commented on the things you stated as fact that were wrong.

I (and others) just pointed out you were wrong in many cases. People should not take bad information with CAPS as being truth just because someone says so.

I didn't discredit you, you discredited yourself by speaking before knowing. Now that you have a link to the Cubase manual you can study up before shooting of your pie hole next time.

Go get em tiger...

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:41 am

meh, he's a crockpot stir-er........know what I mean?

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:42 am

synthesizer808 wrote:Nothing I said was misinformation, spinned yes, but not misinformation

I really dont get why you people get so worked up EVERY single time someone clanks down on a piece of software.

Because this thread wasn't about which host is better. It was ONLY about Cubase. YOU came in trying to trash a host and promote a host, and were off topic in doing so.

If you have genuine gripes and want to DISCUSS them, cool. If you just want to be a troll and spread around information that is not accurate, go somewhere else. Go to the Reaper forums. They like talking about how great their host is and how all the rest suck. Nothing wrong with that. Just do it somewhere else. Nobody asked what host you thought was better. Nobody cares.

Brent

synthesizer808 · Post by **synthesizer808** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:43 am

LawrenceF, everything I said was 100% correct.

Koolkeys, In my initial post I stated I use Cubase 5.
There was no promoting of any sort.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:44 am

synthesizer808 wrote:LawrenceF, everything I said was 100% correct.

Repeating it over and over doesn't make it true. No, everything you said was NOT correct.

Brent

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:48 am

P.S. It's discredit. Not miscredit.

100% correct about that EQ huh? Last in the chain?

You might want to have a look at that chart again.

100% corrrect about sidechaining huh? I showed you how I sidechain with a ReaComp that Steinberg didn't make.

You really are embarrassing yourself. Just stop. No hard feelings, just read the manual so you'll know what you're talking about next time.

It's plenty of legit stuff to bash it on when the conversation turns to that.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:52 am

synthesizer808 wrote:
Koolkeys, In my initial post I stated I use Cubase 5.
There was no promoting of any sort.

I know you said you use it. But you've made it a point to trash Cubase and claim that Reaper does more for a third of the price(both statements are of course not accurate- you just may not be aware that they aren't true).

It's one thing to say something you THINK is true, then get corrected and say "oh, I didn't know that". But you are sticking to what you said even though it's not accurate.

So please, go sit in a corner for an hour, come back with a smile on your face, and we'll let you speak again. Run along now!

Brent

synthesizer808 · Post by **synthesizer808** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:59 am

I prefer 'miscredit'!

Inserts 1-6 are PRE-EQ, so I was right

Oldschol bus SC is not a pure native feature, its just a "work-around".
Native C5 Sidechaining works only with steiny stuff, there are no other vst3 plugs released that supports this yet, so I was right.

So my facts were spot on, spinned ofcourse, but not flat-out lies either

And I never claimed Reaper does more, I stated cubase doesnt do 'more' "than reaper for example", which in raw functionality it doesnt, warping/notation/wave editor is irrelevant for composing, and hardly worth the 400€ difference.

Obviously in a 1on1 feature comparison, this doesnt hold up, I guess its how you interpret it.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu May 07, 2009 1:06 am

synthesizer808 wrote:I prefer 'miscredit'!

Inserts 1-6 are PRE-EQ, so I was right

Oldschol bus SC is not a pure native feature, its just a "work-around".
Native C5 Sidechaining works only with steiny stuff, there are no other vst3 plugs released that supports this yet, so I was right.

So my facts were spot on, spinned yes but not flat-out lies

Yes, there ARE plugins available that are non-Steiny. The entire Fabfilter line is a good example, along with some current Virsyn titles and more they are updating soon. Also, Waves and other companies have confirmed they are working on it. There are others, but I'll have to look for them as I haven't had a need for them until today.

But on a different note, why spin? What purpose does that serve? Why not just join a conversation and say "ya know what I think could be improved in Cubase?" and then mention a couple of things. Every host uses SOME workarounds, and every host has it's downsides. Nobody claimed that Cubase didn't. But you came in with quite a rotten thread-damaging attitude that serves zero purpose.

So start over. Remember? Sit in the corner and think of what you have done, and why you will never do it again! Then come back and join in an intelligent conversation and nobody will give you a hard time.

Brent

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Thu May 07, 2009 1:13 am

FabFilter's new high-quality Pro-C compressor [snip]
Available in RTAS, VST, VST 3 and AU for Mac OS X and Windows
-External side chain

No shit?

http://www.fabfilter.com/products/pro-c.php

You really are a glutton for punishment huh?

You are a funny guy... I'm starting to like you more and more...

synthesizer808 · Post by **synthesizer808** » Thu May 07, 2009 1:18 am

lol aight fair enough, that was released 5days ago right?

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu May 07, 2009 1:19 am

synthesizer808 wrote:lol aight fair enough, that was released 5days ago right?

Ummmm, no. It's been out for a while. A couple of their plugins are VST3 compatible, if not all(I don't know for sure).

Pro-C went VST3 back on October 13th. So yeah, five days ago, give or take a few.

Brent

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Thu May 07, 2009 1:21 am

synthesizer808 wrote:lol aight fair enough, that was released 5days ago right?

Before Cubase 5 was released?

You're cracking me up man...

... you are a comic genius.

Impressed with Cubase- am I crazy? What impresses you?