KVR Audio

sensorium · Post by **sensorium** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:19 am

Does anyone know if the timestretch can be applied to individual audio files rather than the whole song?

Also, can you play back REX loops as well as audio?

fgimian · Post by **fgimian** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:21 am

Well I signed up for beta, but to be entirely honest, there isn't much more than we saw in the demo videos earlier. There really is no point in this program being used as a ReWire slave since you can't route audio into ReWire slaves, so you won't be able to record your inputs in this scenario.

Thus, after having spent thousands on VST plugins, I don't think I'll be one of the people in the Props target audience, but I guess most Reason-only users will jump on this in a heartbeat.

ludwig · Post by **ludwig** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:23 am

Do i understand this correctly: I will have to buy Reason and Record in order to use Reason devices in Record? How much will that cost? Why don't they just put this into Reason 5? Why two separate programs?

christianmusicmaker · Mon May 11, 2009 11:23 am

headquest wrote:I'm signed up to test this

From the video on the Props site I am actually now VERY excited. This does look... well... very interesting for sure.

The marketing angle is - as always with Propellerhead - awesome. I think that pretty much ANY musician watching that video would think to themselves, "at last, music software that is designed for ME."

Seriously, I think this one is going to be a winner.

Love the look of the Mixer.

Needs plenty of scrolling though by the looks of things sadly.

Well it appears to be much more than an extension for Reason indeed Reason it appears can be used inside Record.

Does it bring another DAW to the already crowded table? I think it does but with way less features. Then again I suspect the market for an app like Record is not that small. It's the price of Reason and Record combined however that might bring it into direct competition with much more fully featured and flexible (VST) hosts.

I suspect the Props will now sell a new bundle surely that includes Reason and Record, they are now in the DAW game fully but very late to the party. I suspect far too late for the kind of impact Reason had when it initially came out.

Record is not an essential for me. It offers features I already have duplicated elsewhere and even features well beyond what even Reason and Record offer combined. But more choice is always good to see.

vinayk · Post by **vinayk** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:24 am

It's pretty nice looking - and the demos of course sound great.
May well be worth buying - if only because it makes "reason" into a complete solution - and going on their advert video - it probably is a simple way to record music for non technical minded people (somewhat like garageband)

I wonder if you can sample the audio that you record directly to use it in other parts of the program? or wheter there is any audio editing features (I doubt it)

Again its annoying that I wouldn't be able to use all my nice plugins with it.

But probably not bad for simple recording and no fuss operation.

NAS · Post by **NAS** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:24 am

Seems like a completly stupid idea using a dongle
1 ) It just throws down a challenge to the crackers so it will be cracked even quicker
2 ) It punishes paying customers

Sad stuff

NAS

Download SOphist · Post by **Download SOphist** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:25 am

aMUSEd wrote:Well if was a Rewire host even that would be something.

granted.
edited for clarity.

Redmerkurii · Post by **Redmerkurii** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:25 am

ludwig wrote:Do i understand this correctly: I will have to buy Reason and Record in order to use Reason devices in Record? How much will that cost? Why don't they just put this into Reason 5? Why two separate programs?

F**ckin alleluia

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:27 am

No VST support - no new Host!

vinayk · Post by **vinayk** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:29 am

I can't see why anyone who uses "only reason" - would use reason by itself now however. Given that this lets you multicore your reason racks, and add bits of audio here and there

Download SOphist · Post by **Download SOphist** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:30 am

ludwig wrote:Do i understand this correctly: I will have to buy Reason and Record in order to use Reason devices in Record? How much will that cost? Why don't they just put this into Reason 5? Why two separate programs?

christianmusicmaker · Mon May 11, 2009 11:33 am

5.1 wrote:
christianmusicmaker wrote:A USB dongle is of course not like hanging a PC off the side of a Laptop but with so many other easier ways to copy protect software it just seems (to be fair)a very well thought out process on the Props part (best USB attempt I have seen) but somewhat unecessary unless they really have serious issues with cracked copies of Reason and as a result lost sales.
I expect one of the reasons they've started using a dongle is because of the Line 6 plugins. It's no longer just Propellerhead IP in the program.

I hate Dongles, and I'm disappointed to find Propellerheads introducing them with this product, but I agree the ability to authorise via the Internet is a fairly reasonable way of keeping customers working while they're waiting for a replacement.

Good point. It may very well be Line 6. Perhaps the Props did not really want to come out and say that.

Just surprised to see Props go down this route. They clearly took time to think it through but I guess piracy is such a big problem for Propellerheads that they had no choice. It's quite sad if software piracy is that rampant.

But more than a few other products appear to be doing OK without a physical dongle so maybe it is the Line 6 deal that has forced their hand this time and influenced their decision. Oh well.

blank/diod · Post by **blank/diod** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:38 am

ludwig wrote:Do i understand this correctly: I will have to buy Reason and Record in order to use Reason devices in Record? How much will that cost? Why don't they just put this into Reason 5? Why two separate programs?

Why not componentize it? Users who are only into playing acoustic or electro-acoustic instruments and singing will get a dedicated tool and won't have to pay for a lot of electronic instruments they'll never need. Electronic musicians who can't sing a note or strum a chord won't have to pay for audio recording crap they don't need. Users who are into both can get both programs and enjoy the seamless integration.

The music software business is kind of unique in that everyone's trying to cram everything into everything. You don't hear this reasoning anywhere else (like, "man, why doesn't Microsoft just cram PowerPoint, Excel, Word, Access and Outlook into one giant unified application", or "why do I have to use both Illustrator, Photoshop and Flash, can't they just make it one big pile and call it Adobe Everything?"

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:38 am

NAS wrote:Seems like a completly stupid idea using a dongle
1 ) It just throws down a challenge to the crackers so it will be cracked even quicker

Sorry, I don't see how there's a reason to think that. Syncrosoft-protected software just isn't cracked these days, and the more recent Waves stuff doesn't seem to turn up on search engines either.

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:39 am

It seems like all the legacy Reason 4 code is included inside the Record app. The program is gimped by default, you just need a copy of Reason to 'unlock' those features. I suspect that with each further release down the road, they will slowly open up more of the unique Reason features into Record.

I just don't see how they can add more features to Record (in future releases) without taking some from Reason. Conversely I don't see how they can add features to Reason v5 without taking some from Record either.

Eventually I see them making Reason redundant. Probably by Record version 3.0 you wont need Reason any more like what happened to Rebirth.

Record: New DAW from Propellerheads