Record: New DAW from Propellerheads

[koalaboy]

Rewire masters imply support for 3rd party code, something Propellerheads have studiously avoided (see also VST integration).

No more so than ReWire Slave. It's a defined code interface, of which one side always has to be 3rd party code. There's more chance of them sandboxing 3rd party code if they're the host, than if they're being hosted.

You misunderstand the nature of support. It looks like this...

"I LOADED THIS GREAT PLUGIN CALLED SNOTBOXER IN YOUR HOST REWIRED IN VIA BABY A iLLOGIC. IT'S NOT WORKING AND THE DEVELOPERS OF SNOTBOXER AND BABY A iLLOGIC SAY IT'S YOUR FAULT. I WANT IT FIXED NOW. I WANT MY MONEY BACK. I'M CALLING MY MP."

You then have to support this nightmare, where the code is out of your control. This isn't the case if you write only slaves.

"I LOADED YOUR PLUGIN IN MY SUPER HOST CALLED SNOTBOXER, VIA REWIRE WHAT YOU WROTE - AND NOW YOUR PLUGIN CRASHED. THIS RECORD PLUGIN IS RUBBISH" yada yada.

Exactly the same.

Besides, they're already going to be inundated with people complaining that it makes their microphones sound rubbish, it distorts or is too quiet, it makes their sound buzz and it uses the wrong panning law.

Audio is far more trouble than ReWire

[DRS]

Videos from Gerry Bassermann from Propellerheads are up on YouTube:

[DHR53]

So... This is for people who are damn good musicians, who just don't know anything about computers or recording? If you can't stretch or change the pitch of that audio you'll be doing a lot of takes I'm assuming? Kind of odd that a program that is supposed to be easy to use for beginner's or non-professional's would assume that they could also play perfectly in time... Unless I missed something in that overview. Hmmm...

[spaceman]

All my silly comments aside.. I think this will be a great tool for people who use Reason (or have been relying solely on reason for audio production). But they really should have added pitch correction and at least a few basic audio tools.

[Amberience]

So... This is for people who are damn good musicians, who just don't know anything about computers or recording? If you can't stretch or change the pitch of that audio you'll be doing a lot of takes I'm assuming? Kind of odd that a program that is supposed to be easy to use for beginner's or non-professional's would assume that they could also play perfectly in time... Unless I missed something in that overview. Hmmm...

Are you living in a bubble? There are plenty of musicians out there who are amazing at their instrument, but just don't know DAW software well enough.

[v1o]

so the focus is not audio editing, not midi editing, not virtual instrument playing, not complex mixing, not mastering, ... ??? what is the focus?

did i get something wrong? is it a word processor?

lol... the focus is on recording without any of the extra bits.

You can also master in it using Reason's combinator.

[spaceman]

Videos from Gerry Bassermann from Propellerheads are up on YouTube:

in part 3 he says it uses multiple cores.
That's cool.

[zion7]

Another advantage of a closed system like reason and record is of course the ability to swap projects with other people. One can always be 100% sure that your project will play and behave exactly like it did at home. This makes a strong music sharing community easily possible and has already been proven with Reason.

I admit, I am intrigued by this much more now that I think about it.

Cheers!
bManic

That said the 400meg file that ones audio files will create wont be able to be easily shared

With the crazy terabyte torrenting going on these days I don't think the idea of swapping 400 mb files too far fetched. I've often thought of employing this kickass guitarist friend of mine for projects but he lives 600 miles away. While we both have Cubase it seems like kind of a chore to exchange zipped archives with fiddly file structures... and also we don't have the same plugins.

The best way to exchange projects in Cubase is to export as an OMF project file. It will bounce down all your samples (regardless of path) and export them into the file.

[v1o]

So the new product isn't a DAW but a recording module that can also be accessed from within Reason?

Its a recording module that can access Reason from within itself.

[plastique]

Another advantage of a closed system like reason and record is of course the ability to swap projects with other people. One can always be 100% sure that your project will play and behave exactly like it did at home. This makes a strong music sharing community easily possible and has already been proven with Reason.

I admit, I am intrigued by this much more now that I think about it.

Cheers!
bManic

That said the 400meg file that ones audio files will create wont be able to be easily shared

With the crazy terabyte torrenting going on these days I don't think the idea of swapping 400 mb files too far fetched. I've often thought of employing this kickass guitarist friend of mine for projects but he lives 600 miles away. While we both have Cubase it seems like kind of a chore to exchange zipped archives with fiddly file structures... and also we don't have the same plugins.

The best way to exchange projects in Cubase is to export as an OMF project file. It will bounce down all your samples (regardless of path) and export them into the file.

I recently saw in a TV docu that you can exchange project data in Logic via internet directly from within the running program and that seemed like the tightest exchange I have seen so far (it could have been MIDI files only though which I couldn't make out). I can imagine there could be something like this for Cubase as well but I haven't explored such a side of Cubase at all yet.

[CANE CREEK]

Im a bit p$ssed it needs a "Dongle" AAGGHHHHHHHH

[Zargon the Destroyer]

You know what musicians buy when they don't know anything about compters/DAWs?

They buy stand-alone digital recorders.

Why?

Because they work.

Unless Propellerhead has initiated some sort of bizarre voodoo that guarantees correctly functioning drivers/sound-cards...

Dear Propellerheads, Y cant I git my soundbla5ter to record 0n record? Yr sOFTWARE IS RUBBSH!!!!!!

[v1o]

You know what musicians buy when they don't know anything about compters/DAWs?

They buy stand-alone digital recorders.

Why?

Because they work.

Unless Propellerhead has initiated some sort of bizarre voodoo that guarantees correctly functioning drivers/sound-cards...

Dear Propellerheads, Y cant I git my soundbla5ter to record 0n record? Yr sOFTWARE IS RUBBSH!!!!!!

Unless of course they using a Mac, where hardware and software are always guaranteed to work with each other. Being a closed system helps with reliability on that OS.

[christianmusicmaker]

In Part 3 the screen was full of racks that had to be dragged across the screen just to see them. Never seen any app with that kind of workflow. Seems a bit backward.

It was nice to see the Mixer collapsed in an earlier video (although even that needs too much scrolling IMO) but dragging racks from side to side just to see whats in it or tweak does not look very user friendly at all.

[djanthonyw]

Im a bit p$ssed it needs a "Dongle" AAGGHHHHHHHH

Really? I wonder if they plan on doing that with Reason too... if that's the case then I'll be uninstalling my NFR even though I hardly ever use it. I won't be supporting anymore companies that use dongles. [sarcasm]Nice move Propellerheads. [/sarcasm]