Record: New DAW from Propellerheads

[christianmusicmaker]

Really? I wonder if they plan on doing that with Reason too... if that's the case then I'll be uninstalling my NFR even though I hardly ever use it. I won't be supporting anymore companies that use dongles.

Never even crossed my mind that they would add a dongle to Reason 5. I guess it is a real possibility now.

[djanthonyw]

I think the best use for dongles would be to have the devs sit on them. It might make them feel better instead of f*cking their customers.

[blank/diod]

I think the best use for dongles would be to have the devs sit on them. It might make them feel better instead of f*cking their customers.

That's cool. If your principles are worth more than being able to use the tools you want to use, then stick with the principles, I hear they're really great for generating sound.

Cubase has been dongle-protected for 20 years and is (or at least used to be) the best selling music software of all time, so apparently there are more users who are more keen on protecting *their* investment than giving it away to pirates.

[tonalaxis]

Im a bit p$ssed it needs a "Dongle" AAGGHHHHHHHH

But you don't need a dongle if you have an active internet connection.

[Zargon the Destroyer]

You know what musicians buy when they don't know anything about compters/DAWs?

They buy stand-alone digital recorders.

Why?

Because they work.

Unless Propellerhead has initiated some sort of bizarre voodoo that guarantees correctly functioning drivers/sound-cards...

Dear Propellerheads, Y cant I git my soundbla5ter to record 0n record? Yr sOFTWARE IS RUBBSH!!!!!!

Unless of course they using a Mac, where hardware and software are always guaranteed to work with each other. Being a closed system helps with reliability on that OS.

But Mac users already have Garageband, no? Costs far, far less, no?

The story so far then:

This is for musicians who know nothing about computers or DAWs or recording, but have a Mac and Reason?

That's quite some business model.

[DHR53]

So... This is for people who are damn good musicians, who just don't know anything about computers or recording? If you can't stretch or change the pitch of that audio you'll be doing a lot of takes I'm assuming? Kind of odd that a program that is supposed to be easy to use for beginner's or non-professional's would assume that they could also play perfectly in time... Unless I missed something in that overview. Hmmm...

Are you living in a bubble? There are plenty of musicians out there who are amazing at their instrument, but just don't know DAW software well enough.

I live in Charlotte, NC. And... I've been playing guitar for 30 years, and very rarely do I hit a "perfect take"... It's more about finding a take you like, mixing bits of various takes (if you can, that is) and not having to re-record over and over again... Sort of how Pro-Tools became an industry standard... so many shitty musicians

[nuffink]

You know what musicians buy when they don't know anything about compters/DAWs?

They buy stand-alone digital recorders.

Why?

Because they work.

Unless Propellerhead has initiated some sort of bizarre voodoo that guarantees correctly functioning drivers/sound-cards...

Dear Propellerheads, Y cant I git my soundbla5ter to record 0n record? Yr sOFTWARE IS RUBBSH!!!!!!

Unless of course they using a Mac, where hardware and software are always guaranteed to work with each other. Being a closed system helps with reliability on that OS.

But Mac users already have Garageband, no? Costs far, far less, no?

The story so far then:

This is for musicians who know nothing about computers or DAWs or recording, but have a Mac and Reason?

That's quite some business model.

They're about the biggest name in music software. Shame they didn't have you guiding their business model. They'd be f**king microsoft.

[vanpet]

so I got it right. It just records audio. And does nothing else. For 299€...

now i understand the "WOW!" reactions on the videos. (as an alternative the MS Recorder application is in Start menu > Accessories )

[ericj23]

so I got it right. It just records audio. And does nothing else. For 299€...

now i understand the "WOW!" reactions on the videos. (as an alternative the MS Recorder application is in Start menu > Accessories )

jesus you need glasses

tell me when the microsoft recorder gets an SSL emulation and high quality timestretch

[spaceman]

so I got it right. It just records audio. And does nothing else. For 299€...

now i understand the "WOW!" reactions on the videos. (as an alternative the MS Recorder application is in Start menu > Accessories )

jesus you need glasses

tell me when the microsoft recorder gets an SSL emulation and high quality timestretch

Windows 7.. remember these words!!

[Zargon the Destroyer]

They'd be f**king microsoft.

That's not an appealing image.

[vanpet]

come on guys you know i'm sarcastic. But at the same time we all know this SSL thing is bullshit.

[spaceman]

beautiful plumage

[bpoteat]

so I got it right. It just records audio. And does nothing else. For 299€...

That's kind of my reaction. It is just a basic multi-track recorder/editor? I don't know what I was expecting, but I don't know...I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed.

I don't want to jump the gun and form an opinion yet. I'll definitely demo it and see if it's worth the cash.

The dongle approach is an immediate negative. I have and use a lot of software. If every one of them required a dongle I would be in dongle hell. I have a limited number of inputs on my computer and I really want to reserve my computer's hardware inputs for HARDWARE if you can imagine that. Requiring an internet connection is not really viable either as many don't always work connected to the internet. For a long time I had to disable my internet for any audio work - I had constant interrupts causing dropouts.

Anyway, I'll just wait and see...

[v1o]

But Mac users already have Garageband, no? Costs far, far less, no?

The story so far then:

This is for musicians who know nothing about computers or DAWs or recording, but have a Mac and Reason?

That's quite some business model.

The selling point is in the work flow. Limiting what you can do inspires many people to get more creative. The software seems very 'focused'. Focus is good for working creatively i think. For instance Logic, that is supposed to do everything at once, but you get lost in all the possibilities and never get around to fully master each tool and their use for each purpose. Instead you spend more time tweaking things, opening menus, messing with parameters, clicking the mouse and yet you dont get much music made.


Just because its simplified and easy to use, doesn't mean its solely aimed at people who know nothing about computers and recording. Listen to how professional this track sounds http://digg.com/u134k5

Remember this is just a 1.0 release i'm sure they'll add some sort of audio editing tools and other stuff later. When Ableton Live came out, all it could do was play and stretch loops. But it still became popular. Now its really evolved into something of its own.