Record: New DAW from Propellerheads

[headquest]

This thread has gone huge in less than a week though.

I'm off to bed soon, and when I wake up tomorrow there will invevitably be another 10 pages + the same as there was the last couple of mornings.

Will I read it all.... okay, probably not

[ModuLR]

don't stop now... more please!

[Krakatau]

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This thread has gone huge in less than a week though.

Yeah, it reminds me of the threads on MacRumors after Microsoft had started running their "Laptop Hunters" ads. To make a long story short, Apple has been running these "Hi, I'm a Mac" ads for years where they ridicule PCs and Windows, and Microsoft has remained silent. But in this new ad campaign they targeted Macs directly, talking about the high prices and that Macs are more about aesthetics than power. Man oh man this provoked a lot of foaming at the mouth among Mac heads who went on and on for hundreds of pages yapping about viruses and PCs that break down when you look at them funny...

I'm trying to figure out what the root is here, why a new app from Props stirs up so much controversy. Is it simply the audacity of yet again releasing a new product that doesn't support VST, or is there something deeper?

[thoshu]

I'm trying to figure out what the root is here, why a new app from Props stirs up so much controversy. Is it simply the audacity of yet again releasing a new product that doesn't support VST, or is there something deeper?

[mellotronaut]

This thread has gone huge in less than a week though.

Yeah, it reminds me of the threads on MacRumors after Microsoft had started running their "Laptop Hunters" ads. To make a long story short, Apple has been running these "Hi, I'm a Mac" ads for years where they ridicule PCs and Windows, and Microsoft has remained silent. But in this new ad campaign they targeted Macs directly, talking about the high prices and that Macs are more about aesthetics than power. Man oh man this provoked a lot of foaming at the mouth among Mac heads who went on and on for hundreds of pages yapping about viruses and PCs that break down when you look at them funny...

I'm trying to figure out what the root is here, why a new app from Props stirs up so much controversy. Is it simply the audacity of yet again releasing a new product that doesn't support VST, or is there something deeper?

imagine all those super wise vst-heads, who spent so much money for their Ferraris and Maseratis and now there is a highway and ... .
Moreover, in propiland everybody has more or less the same stuff to use (except for samples and loops); so it's only a matter of skills, what you come up with, while in vst-land, there is a lot of tuning-car like discussion going on and the boys comparing their diks instead of comparing their skills.
Then a certain ignorance and lack of usb-sticks.



meh

[Laraka]

...what possible reason (pun intended) could there be to purchase Record...

I'm not too keen to discuss Record until I have seen and used it myself, but I can offer an answer to pdxindy's question:

Almost all the music I make is done with Reason. I like the synths and effects and have got to know them well. I like that all Reason's devices work together well. The only reason I have another audio app running is so I can record some guitar and vocals, and my personal workflow involves getting the recorded audio into a Reason device as quickly as possible. (There are things I don't like about Reason but for me the pros outweigh the cons. YMMV).
Obviously I use Rewire to link the applications, which is a minor nuisance.

So to answer your question, for me the idea of having a single program to handle sequencing of the Reason soft-synths, plus audio recording, is very appealing. Less technology, more music.

Of course for me like most of us here this discussion is completely speculative until I've actually tried the product. I hope to get a beta copy soon.

[Krakatau]

So to answer your question, for me the idea of having a single program to handle sequencing of the Reason soft-synths, plus audio recording, is very appealing. Less technology, more music.
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Yeah, and considering the stability and CPU lightness that Reason has always shown, this is very promising considering the potentially unequalled efficiency of the whole stuff...

[zion7]

imagine all those super wise vst-heads, who spent so much money for their Ferraris and Maseratis and now there is a highway and ... .
Moreover, in propiland everybody has more or less the same stuff to use (except for samples and loops); so it's only a matter of skills, what you come up with, while in vst-land, there is a lot of tuning-car like discussion going on and the boys comparing their diks instead of comparing their skills.
Then a certain ignorance and lack of usb-sticks.



meh

L O L. Ooooookkk. Bitter much?

Less technology, more music.

ok then why don't you use Rebirth to produce your music? It has less modules than Reason.

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imagine all those super wise vst-heads, who spent so much money for their Ferraris and Maseratis and now there is a highway and ... .

Yeah, I think you're on to something there. It's like a site for diehard fans of performance cars where the discussion normally revolves around penis measuring like which one is better, BMW M3 or Audi RS5, and whether you should put Asanti or Schmidt rims on them, and which tuning kit is the sweetest, RDX or Hurricane? And then along comes Record which is a "people's DAW" that's not even trying to compete with M3 or RS5, it's more like a Volkswagen that should pass by unnoticed, but it's a VW with a twist due to the kickass timestretch and the SSL9000 style mixer, so it's like an ordinary Volkswagen that does 0-60 mph in 3 seconds leaving M3 owners' uncircumcised members hanging like floppy beagle's ears. And adding insult to injury, no tuning kit or custom rims will fit this VW. Argh! Controversy!

[zion7]

imagine all those super wise vst-heads, who spent so much money for their Ferraris and Maseratis and now there is a highway and ... .

Yeah, I think you're on to something there. It's like a site for diehard fans of performance cars where the discussion normally revolves around penis measuring like which one is better, BMW M3 or Audi RS5, and whether you should put Asanti or Schmidt rims on them, and which tuning kit is the sweetest, RDX or Hurricane? And the along comes Record which is a "people's DAW" that's not even trying to compete with M3 or RS5, it's more like a Volkswagen that should pass by unnoticed, but it's a VW with a twist due to the kickass timestretch and the SSL9000 style mixer, so it's like an ordinary Volkswagen that does 0-60 mph in 3 seconds leaving M3 owners' uncircumcised members hanging like floppy beagle's ears. And adding insult to injury, no tuning kit or custom rims will fit this VW. Argh! Controversy!

Almost. You forgot to mention that this kickass Volkswagen doesn't have wheels. And its not compatible with any auto parts you would find in an Autozone store.

[Laraka]

Less technology, more music.

ok then why don't you use Rebirth to produce your music? It has less modules than Reason.

Zion7, those were my words, not pdxindy's.

Assuming you're asking your question of me not pdxindy (it's hard to tell from your post): I described the functions I use when making music, and I think it is obvious that Rebirth doesn't provide those functions. Reason+Record might. Thanks for your interest, but I think you're missing my point.

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Almost. You forgot to mention that this kickass Volkswagen doesn't have wheels. And isn't compatible with parts from anything sold in Autozone.

It does 0-60 in 3s but doesn't have wheels? You mean it's got wings? I'm intrigued, I always wanted the Moller SkyCar but if I can get an airborne VW, I'm sold.

[mellotronaut]

imagine all those super wise vst-heads, who spent so much money for their Ferraris and Maseratis and now there is a highway and ... .

Yeah, I think you're on to something there. It's like a site for diehard fans of performance cars where the discussion normally revolves around penis measuring like which one is better, BMW M3 or Audi RS5, and whether you should put Asanti or Schmidt rims on them, and which tuning kit is the sweetest, RDX or Hurricane? And the along comes Record which is a "people's DAW" that's not even trying to compete with M3 or RS5, it's more like a Volkswagen that should pass by unnoticed, but it's a VW with a twist due to the kickass timestretch and the SSL9000 style mixer, so it's like an ordinary Volkswagen that does 0-60 mph in 3 seconds leaving M3 owners' uncircumcised members hanging like floppy beagle's ears. And adding insult to injury, no tuning kit or custom rims will fit this VW. Argh! Controversy!

tears of laughter! best and funniest post in the whole thread: thank you very much! sniff sniff

[mmichalski59]

Almost. You forgot to mention that this kickass Volkswagen doesn't have wheels. And its not compatible with any auto parts you would find in an Autozone store.

Now you look silly.

It not only has wheels, it's wheels don't get blow outs. Oh, they show the wear of time, but they can be refurbished into darn near new condition.

And you don't need to go to Autozone to buy parts, rummaging through catalogs to find something compatible with the car you drive, only to find out it is out of stock or not being made any more. No, you go to one store where you know they have stuff that fits your Volkswagen and, what's more, the parts just slide into place without any "installation".


Thanks for the analogy. Hope you don't mind that I borrowed it.