Record: New DAW from Propellerheads

[djanthonyw]

Well this one started on May 4th, it's now May 13th. 68 pages in just 9 days!

[blank/diod]

Do each track automatically get a channel in the mixer ? If so what about devices with multiple outputs, do you have to submix them first ?

All tracks get mixer channels automatically but you can create extra empty channels if you want to plug in separate outputs outside the main stereo pair.

[mike@manike]

[Personally, I usually use a compressor first, then an EQ (so any EQ boosts won't "trigger" the compressor), most other folks seem to do it the other way around.

Yea, absolutely. An Eq boost pre-comp will trigger the compressor but the idea is that EQ'ing before a compressor is corrective (perhaps mostly cutting) and EQ'ing after is creative.

Michael

[Ubiety]

Dongle fanboys are the worst!

I think dongle fanboys like playing with each other's dongles...

Until now, it never crossed my mind that the two of you were trapped in the closet. Fanboys of dongle fanboys. Repression is an illness.

That was almost a witty riposte...of course, it would have to have been witty to count as a witty riposte.

Ah, the truth hurts.

Well I'm sure you'll get over it.

Like I said, hearing the truth hurts. I know you're hurt, and hurting. Your symptoms of repression and projection tell me this. You're trapped in the closet, and can't find your way out; even though you know that there's a big, bright red dongle waiting for you just outside the door.

[robogone]

I think dongle fanboys like playing with each other's dongles...

Until now, it never crossed my mind that the two of you were trapped in the closet. Fanboys of dongle fanboys. Repression is an illness.

That was almost a witty riposte...of course, it would have to have been witty to count as a witty riposte.

Ah, the truth hurts.

Well I'm sure you'll get over it.

Like I said, hearing the truth hurts. I know you're hurt, and hurting. Your symptoms of repression and projection tell me this. You're trapped in the closet, and can't find your way out; even though you know that there's a big, bright red dongle waiting for you just outside the door.

If you're waiting outside the door for me with your dongle in hand I'm staying behind the door...

[Ubiety]

If you're waiting outside the door for me with your dongle in hand I'm staying behind the door...

Only in your dreams.

[bobbybland]

One thing no one has commented on (I don't think):

How convenient would it be to automatically have an decent EQ, compressor, and gate, per channel.. automatically.. without having to drag in any effects chains like you do have to in Live, and without having to open seperate plugin windows??

That seems like a worthy reason to want to investigate this program.

MAYBE JUST SET UP A START UP TEMPLATE WITH ALL OF YOUR FAVORITE PLUGINS ALREADY LOADED IN LIVE,CUBASE,DP,LOGIC,PRO-TOOLS ETC..?
That's how many of us have done it for years.. Guess thats hard to believe for some.I already have my choice of plugs ready to go on each channel,powered by UAD,and Quad core/8 core cpu's... I know that seems hard to believe that people already have figured this out and all,but!!

Oh yes I forgot,and I can truuuuuly edit!!! This isn't a such a new thing in a real DAW!! iT RECORDS TOO..GOSH!

[blank/diod]

If you're waiting outside the door for me with your dongle in hand I'm staying behind the door...

If your dongle accidentally gets caught in the door and snaps off, Propellerhead will send you a new dongle for a nominal fee. It may not fit the socket of your original dongle, but musicians are usually handy with gaffer tape.

[Amberience]

One thing no one has commented on (I don't think):

How convenient would it be to automatically have an decent EQ, compressor, and gate, per channel.. automatically.. without having to drag in any effects chains like you do have to in Live, and without having to open seperate plugin windows??

That seems like a worthy reason to want to investigate this program.

MAYBE JUST SET UP A START UP TEMPLATE WITH ALL OF YOUR FAVORITE PLUGINS ALREADY LOADED IN LIVE,CUBASE,DP,LOGIC,PRO-TOOLS ETC..?
That's how many of us have done it for years.. Guess thats hard to believe for some.I already have my choice of plugs ready to go on each channel,powered by UAD,and Quad core/8 core cpu's... I know that seems hard to believe that people already have figured this out and all,but!!

Oh yes I forgot,and I can truuuuuly edit!!! This isn't a such a new thing in a real DAW!! iT RECORDS TOO..GOSH!

No need to be belligerent, I was just making a point. Anyway, a custom project in a host does not address my other point; with Record, you're not going to need to open GUI after GUI to make edits... and personally, I like that notion.

I'm definitely going to check this out; either the beta if they accept me, or the demo when it comes out.

[LawrenceF]

68.5...

Anyway, SAW has used that paradigm from the beginning, the channel strip modeled after hardware with EQ and Compression right there in-line on the channel. I'm not a fan of that method but plenty of people are.

Although I use the Cubase channel EQ for most everything I'm much more picky about digital compressors.

But RECORD's faux SSL mixer should be fine.... on to page 69.

[Download SOphist]

Until now, it never crossed my mind that the two of you were trapped in the closet. Fanboys of dongle fanboys. Repression is an illness.

That was almost a witty riposte...of course, it would have to have been witty to count as a witty riposte.

Ah, the truth hurts.

Well I'm sure you'll get over it.

Like I said, hearing the truth hurts. I know you're hurt, and hurting. Your symptoms of repression and projection tell me this. You're trapped in the closet, and can't find your way out; even though you know that there's a big, bright red dongle waiting for you just outside the door.

If you're waiting outside the door for me with your dongle in hand I'm staying behind the door...

popcorn, everyone?

[hxcobd]

HAHAHAHAHAHA, it doesn't support VSTs!

FAIL.

[dellboy]

Sorry if this has already been posted but DV247.com and Sweetwater.com are already advertising Record.....

http://www.dv247.com/invt/64985/

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Record/


"ID8 - the songwriter's toolbox
To help you complement your recorded material, Record also comes with multi instrument ID8 - a songwriter's toolbox. ID8 ships with a wide palette of sounds useful for building a steady foundation for your tracks, like pianos, drums, bass, strings and more"

So it has its own built in instruments.

[blank/diod]

Sorry if this has already been posted but DV247.com and Sweetwater.com are already advertising Record.....

http://www.dv247.com/invt/64985/

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Record/


"ID8 - the songwriter's toolbox
To help you complement your recorded material, Record also comes with multi instrument ID8 - a songwriter's toolbox. ID8 ships with a wide palette of sounds useful for building a steady foundation for your tracks, like pianos, drums, bass, strings and more"

So it has its own built in instruments.

It has one instrument, the rompler ID8, something akin to a Sound Canvas module with a GM type sound set. A quick'n'dirty go-to module if you want a sound in less than 5 seconds (it doesn't open a browser window, you just pick the sound directly on the panel).

[Sascha Franck]

The take-comping tool.

Did we already establish that it can work ONLY on one track at a time?

This, at least to me, is a crucial issue.
Really, one of the reasons why I like Logics "new" Swipe Comping (and grouping) feature. Once you group some tracks, all the edits you do on one track are valid for the other tracks in the same group as well (regardless whether it's just a single region or a bunch of cycles that you want to comp together).
Of course this is especially important when working with multitracked drums (which probably might not be the main goal of folks using Reason/Record), but even guitar players like me are often recording guitars on more than just one track at once, so group editing is something almost everybody dealing with audio recording needs.

And sort of OT:

Yea, absolutely. An Eq boost pre-comp will trigger the compressor but the idea is that EQ'ing before a compressor is corrective (perhaps mostly cutting) and EQ'ing after is creative.

Well, sometimes I actually *want* an EQ to "trigger" a compressor, so that'd be another thing why one may want to use EQ boosts as the first thing in the chain, but generally you're of course spot on.
It has actually been making me wonder for years that most often, the "standard" onboard EQs of our beloved sequencers (e.g. in Cubase and Logic, for the latter it has only been changed more or less recently, I think it's still like this in Cubase) were always placed in front of anything else, so if you wanted to do some EQing after your compressions, overdrives and what not, you had to insert an EQ via whatever standard plugin menu. As said, in Logic this has been adressed quite well, the standard track EQ (which really isn't too bad IMO), always gets inserted in the next free plugin slot when you doubleclick its channel strip icon. Small things like this (add freely "re-orderable" plugin chains to this very scenario) are indeed immensely speeding up ones workflow.


- Sascha