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hello, i was wondering what this was exactly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mu ... signatures

if you scroll down a bit after the starting paragraph, passed the contents box, you will see time sig notation i guess its called i dont know. i would like to know what that 3rd number means. heres couple of example of some set up like this

2\3\4

4\3\2


i know bascially what 4\3 time is or evenm 2\3 but what about 2\3\4? or (that four i dont understand).

thanks if anyone can answer best they can so i might understand.

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also would like to know what this would look like, this is what im using to compose my tune.

i have length 60 and this is what it looks like for i guess i could call it a time line.

=-=---=---=-=---=---=-=---=---=-=---=---=-=---=---=-=---=---

i did length 60 instead of 30 becuase i double the notes being hit and it didnt fit on a 30 but did on a 60 lenght time line. even though i want to move back to 30 if i felt like it, would that work? hope this makes sense enough to understand if this does actually work, thats what im wondering if this could work going from 60 to 30 with the same notes hit but at 50 percent quicker. i noticed that 50 percent quicker still fits completely on a 60. anyway ill wait for a reply if someone could help.

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hyoshira wrote:hello, i was wondering what this was exactly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mu ... signatures

if you scroll down a bit after the starting paragraph, passed the contents box, you will see time sig notation i guess its called i dont know. i would like to know what that 3rd number means. heres couple of example of some set up like this

2\3\4

4\3\2


i know bascially what 4\3 time is or evenm 2\3 but what about 2\3\4? or (that four i dont understand).

thanks if anyone can answer best they can so i might understand.
I haven't come across this idea of having fractional beats before. I am familiar with the Boulez work "The Hammer Without a Master" but haven't played it. So here's my best shot at the explanation...

In time sigs of course, the top number indicates the number of beats per measure. In 4/2, there are four beats to the bar.

What Boulez has done is established a fraction of a beat per bar. So here he has 2/3 of a beat and the final number "4" is the quarter note which represents the 2/3rds.

So if there are two eighth notes in the measure, together they would add up to ALMOST a beat.

I could be wrong, but I'll bet I'm at least 2/3 right!

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hyoshira wrote:also would like to know what this would look like, this is what im using to compose my tune.

i have length 60 and this is what it looks like for i guess i could call it a time line.

=-=---=---=-=---=---=-=---=---=-=---=---=-=---=---=-=---=---
I assume each - or = represents a 16th note. So I regrouped them in groups of four, so each group is a quarter note's length:

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=-=- --=- --=- =--- =--- =-=- --=- --=- =--- =--- =-=- --=- --=- =--- =---
Then I saw it repeats itself after a length of 5 quarter notes:

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=-=- --=- --=- =--- =--- 
=-=- --=- --=- =--- =--- 
=-=- --=- --=- =--- =---
So I'd say it's simply in 5/4 signature. And 3 bars of 5/4 is 15/4 = 60/16.
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it also breaks down into a basic rhythm foot of =-=---=---, which is just a pattern of 5 with fairly even accents (notice that it's =-=-x-=-x- where the x just shows 'missing' stresses)

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