KVR Audio

Burnie · Post by **Burnie** » Sun May 17, 2009 6:51 pm

Did someone try to contact the guy ? Did someone succeed ?

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Sun May 17, 2009 7:10 pm

D N A wrote:
BFunKu wrote: Can you explain how D16 made it then? Seeing they to are from Poland and started around the same time. They started as a really really small company also, but somehow their doing just fine and making $$$. Maybe they were rich to begin with though?
Well, there's PSP from Poland too

About D16 - nah, I guess they weren't rich. As far as I remember their first plugin was Drumazon and something tells me that this was one guy. Maybe it's just he was more experienced with overall web technologies, he was a better businessman ? Maybe I drawed that picture in too dark colours. It's hard to start as one person, especially if you have no savings but with 2-3 people it's not that bad. Maybe D16 was more motivated, more serious about starting plugin development company, who knows ?

Well, that's an age old tale of good developers who are bad business people. Lots of people think because they're good at making something they'll just fall into the business end of things. It's just not true. I'm thankful to work for a company that has a team of people working on the nuts and bolts of the business end of things so that the artists and design team can focus on the product. Maybe if the author of these plugs creates a big enough buzz he can leverage that into a job with a larger software manufacturer.

D.J.T. · Post by **D.J.T.** » Sun May 17, 2009 7:16 pm

One of KVR's finest moments.

Thanks.

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Sun May 17, 2009 7:50 pm

anyone knows if these plugins are 100 percent synthedit ?
Or just the gui, or a combination of synthedit and other modules ?

TristezaOrange · Post by **TristezaOrange** » Sun May 17, 2009 7:58 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote:anyone knows if these plugins are 100 percent synthedit ?
Or just the gui, or a combination of synthedit and other modules ?

I suspect we won't know until the developer joins us.

It doesn't matter to me in the least though - not even the inevitable backlash that's coming ("more aliasing than Jennifer Garner"/"placebo effect of the pretty GUIs"/"not as good as a Virus"/"don't sound exactly like the hardware they are supposed to recreate"

) is going to make me love these synths less.

Zombie Queen · Post by **Zombie Queen** » Sun May 17, 2009 8:01 pm

These look good, gotta try them. Funny thing I think I saw them on polish auction net, back when it was selling, seeing the price which was like $5 I thought it probably is some rip-off and not worth time checking.

I read that thread at polish audio forum, it looks like the guy had a good music related job and in time figured out that plugin business isn't worth giving it up. He said he would eventually make them free, but would wait some time to be loyal for those who bought them. I guess the time has come.

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Sun May 17, 2009 8:01 pm

D N A wrote:
BFunKu wrote: Can you explain how D16 made it then? Seeing they to are from Poland and started around the same time. They started as a really really small company also, but somehow their doing just fine and making $$$. Maybe they were rich to begin with though?
Well, there's PSP from Poland too

About D16 - nah, I guess they weren't rich. As far as I remember their first plugin was Drumazon and something tells me that this was one guy. Maybe it's just he was more experienced with overall web technologies, he was a better businessman ? Maybe I drawed that picture in too dark colours. It's hard to start as one person, especially if you have no savings but with 2-3 people it's not that bad. Maybe D16 was more motivated, more serious about starting plugin development company, who knows ?

Naah, d16's first plugin was 'phoscyon' around 2005
Back then everybody thought it sucked compared to audio realism ' abl '
In 2006 they released ' drumazon' and it was a shot in the rose ....the rest is history
( altough I still prefer audio realism )

SampleScience · Post by **SampleScience** » Sun May 17, 2009 8:05 pm

Burnie wrote:
I find that with this pack freeware gets closer to commercial offering, I mean, with that, the mda plugins, the Classic Series & Mu.Lab free you have a pretty dawn good studio for zero penny!
Of course, but it is not nice for many other good devs of freeware... Perhaps you do not know all the synths related on my site (and on other sites)... Take a look... And don't forget that Elektrostudio was intended to be payware...

Whatever the intention was... it make me thinks about that RetroDelay plugin by e-phonic, it was intended to be a commercial release & at the last minute the develloper decided it was too much trouble selling & supporting his plug & decided it would be free.

And I know your site very well, as my main language is french, I see that at page 7 of your list you suggest using demo softwares of Arturia because there is no time limit &/or audio dropout every 20 seconds or so... I don't think the intention of Arturia was to let people screen grab their presets & record their own sequence using their demo, the idea is to try them, that's all, check their liscence.

Thanks for the list by the way, very usefull! cheers

D N A · Post by **D N A** » Sun May 17, 2009 8:11 pm

Each plugin creates it's own folder just like all SE plugins do + if you preview .dll file you can find "synthedit" phrase here and there

So i guess it's synthedit but something tells me that developer created it's own modules.

novaflash · Post by **novaflash** » Sun May 17, 2009 8:33 pm

D N A wrote:Each plugin creates it's own folder just like all SE plugins do + if you preview .dll file you can find "synthedit" phrase here and there So i guess it's synthedit but something tells me that developer created it's own modules.

yes it's a synthedit vst, the guy have hidden the third library* used
and do all possible hack to hide SE origin.
(and the authors will not be happy to see that)

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Sun May 17, 2009 9:03 pm

Joke: How many poles does it take to create quality emu's?
Answer : One!
I think these are great and am working on some presets. I'm not so sure about these being SE. He's done some things I didn't think possible in SE. The way the things are labeled in the folders also leads me to believe he might have used SE for the GUI, much like Sylenth. Possibly a combo. Regardless, get this guy a paypal donate link immediately and does someone know how to say Dave Smith Evolver in polish?

TristezaOrange · Post by **TristezaOrange** » Sun May 17, 2009 9:12 pm

novaflash wrote:
D N A wrote:Each plugin creates it's own folder just like all SE plugins do + if you preview .dll file you can find "synthedit" phrase here and there So i guess it's synthedit but something tells me that developer created it's own modules.
yes it's a synthedit vst, the guy have hidden the third library* used
and do all possible hack to hide SE origin.
(and the authors will not be happy to see that)

So many people absolutely detest anything SynthEdit-made so I can't blame the guy if he tried to hide that fact - especially if he intended to sell them. What third-part library did he use?

Tux · Post by **Tux** » Sun May 17, 2009 9:36 pm

D.J.T. wrote:One of KVR's finest moments.

Most definitely. It's up there with the release of Synth 1 in 2003 and the giving away of Tracktion in 2004.

I've been away for a while, but I'm mighty glad I dropped by yesterday!

EDIT: I forgot to mention Tal Bassline in my list of 'KVR moments' too!

novaflash · Post by **novaflash** » Sun May 17, 2009 9:39 pm

"What third-part library did he use?"
DH for example. I've only drop the sep/sem into the notepad
to see "signatures" at the EOF.

but this is a cool instruments pack!

thorau · Post by **thorau** » Sun May 17, 2009 9:44 pm

Burnie wrote:Did someone try to contact the guy ? Did someone succeed ?

Yes, I mailed him and he, Robert, mailed back quickly. He has a new link on his site with the synth pack as dll and Minihost exe. He added license infos too. Robert works on some other emu projects, but he's got no time to finalize them in near future.

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