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koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Wed May 20, 2009 12:57 am

John-E34 wrote:Oops... Downloaded the latest version and re-scanned with Cantabile, still not listed. I looked further and found Reverberate.dll had been added to the exclude list.

I de-selected the dll and scanned again... Reverberate is now showing up.

Sorry to add to your woes, when I was at fault.

Have you browsed for Reverberate and loaded it into Cantibile? It loads for me, but I didn't run it through the scanner. I just used the "Choose File/Plugin..." option and it seems to load fine. I don't think I have the latest version though.

Brent

John-E34 · Post by **John-E34** » Wed May 20, 2009 1:23 am

koolkeys wrote:
John-E34 wrote:Oops... Downloaded the latest version and re-scanned with Cantabile, still not listed. I looked further and found Reverberate.dll had been added to the exclude list.

I de-selected the dll and scanned again... Reverberate is now showing up.

Sorry to add to your woes, when I was at fault.
Have you browsed for Reverberate and loaded it into Cantibile? It loads for me, but I didn't run it through the scanner. I just used the "Choose File/Plugin..." option and it seems to load fine. I don't think I have the latest version though.

Brent

Manually loading Reverberate was always ok... I was surprised that Cantabile could never find it during a plugin scan.

As stated above, this is now resolved - caused by Reverberate being added to Cantabile's ignore list.

My only remaining question is whether this reverb is actually stereo... ie, if I pan an instrument hard left, there is absolutely nothing coming from Reverberate on the right channel. Most other reverbs seem to add echoes on both channels (although faint) even if no signal exists on one channel.

Seems to me that if a ballon burst to my extreme left, my right ear would still pick-up an echo.

Maybe my understanding is wrong, just curious.

liquidsonics · Post by **liquidsonics** » Wed May 20, 2009 7:19 am

Thanks for rescanning guys, hopefully I've nailed the issue.

Regarding the stereo effect you're discussing when you pan and instrument hard left/right and then send to Reverberate: you're probably getting a different result to many reverbs as they often mix a stereo track down to mono and then apply the reverb on both channels using the same mono input. Reverberate does a convolution of the left channel with the left input and vice versa, so if there is no input on one channel you won't get any convolved output there either.

Advantage - it means a reverb as an insert preserves the stereo field
Disadvantage - it means you would get the effect you're seeing when one channel of a stereo pair is silent

This may not be the operation most people would want (your balloon analogy was spot on). Any thoughts people?

I could add a pre-reverb mono-mixdown switch which at least gives people the option.

koolkeys: The IR1 and IR2 GUI code is the same (or at least it should be) so I am unsure why you're seeing that effect. I find it differs on hosts and on my two different test PCs though so I'm going to put this issue to rest for the time being. Again thanks for the re-tests.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Wed May 20, 2009 7:39 am

It's no problem. I think it probably has to do with a longer IR being loaded, so more calculations going on. It was more a curious thing, not something that you should spend your time on. Sorry to labor the point a bit!

I have to say though that overall, the responsiveness is great on Reverberate. You do a good job with the overall graphics handling, despite the minor issues I've mentioned. And the chorus, while subtle(as is the modulation of room reflections in real life), is effective.

I think it's a good sign for a plugin when more graphics issues are found than actual bugs. So hopefully that's encouraging!

Brent

liquidsonics · Post by **liquidsonics** » Wed May 20, 2009 7:53 am

To be honest I've found the GUI work surprisingly time consuming!

I'm pleased you like the addition of the chorus. One of the initial comments was suggesting I improve it to be more Roland-y but I actually thought it sounded ok (certainly using all-pass interpolation rather than linear interpolation sounds better but I clearly didn't go as far as the UAD chorus plugs do), I certainly have found it to provide a nice thickening sound (with a little movement) depending on the source material.

All seems to be encouraging so far

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Wed May 20, 2009 6:21 pm

liquidsonics wrote:
koolkeys wrote:I notice that with some controls, such as Decay, it tries to update in real time, at least it seems like it by the looks of the hourglass in the corner. Which is great. Except that it can cause the knob to jitter a little bit and jump too far. It seems that as it updates the knob can lag behind a bit, and once it finishes updating, it jumps. Does this make sense? Maybe it would be better to make the setting update on mouse button release instead of real time?
I've had a little tweak with the thread priorities, see if that's made any difference.

Hm, maybe try to quantize the knob frames to the data value...
I hope you understand what I want to say.

liquidsonics · Post by **liquidsonics** » Thu May 21, 2009 10:22 pm

Midiworks wrote:Hm, maybe try to quantize the knob frames to the data value... I hope you understand what I want to say.

Sorry, I don't actually, could you rephrase please?

bennals · Post by **bennals** » Thu May 21, 2009 10:51 pm

minx wrote:Another vote for Mac version

And another

liquidsonics · Post by **liquidsonics** » Tue May 26, 2009 5:52 pm

I've posted a small update to lock out the host when the IR loading window is open. Hopefully it's not messed anything else up, let me know if there are any issues. If so, the old version can be downloaded by doing a link copy/paste and editing the 916 to 915 in the file name.

New version is linked from the website.

Cheers
Matt

tinkerpixel · Post by **tinkerpixel** » Wed May 27, 2009 2:35 am

Seems to work fine here. Couldn't get live to crash.

liquidsonics · Post by **liquidsonics** » Wed May 27, 2009 7:48 am

tinkerpixel wrote: Seems to work fine here. Couldn't get live to crash.

Good, I'll probably go with this version for release soon then. I think £30 will be the asking price, which is roughly $50.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Wed May 27, 2009 7:55 am

Sorry, long weekend with the holiday and the in-laws moving. I'll be testing the latest version in Cubase and post back the results.

Brent

guitar junkie · Post by **guitar junkie** » Wed May 27, 2009 2:31 pm

MY vote is for a mac port of this plugin!

We need more convolution plugin effects!!!!!!!!!

liquidsonics · Post by **liquidsonics** » Thu May 28, 2009 8:52 pm

guitar junkie wrote:MY vote is for a mac port of this plugin!

That makes 8, thanks for the vote.

liquidsonics · Post by **liquidsonics** » Sat May 30, 2009 3:01 pm

I hope Reverberate is now stable enough to move to full release, see edits to post #1. Thanks again to all testers

Reverberate - Convolution reverb with modulation for Mac and PC (AU, AAX, VST)