Elektrostudio - Polish FREE 10VSTI PACK

[D N A]

Don't take this the wrong way, but nice going in grabbing control of 10 free quality plugins - You must be very happy that worked out so well for you?

I am very happy because it's great motivation for me to explore SynthEdit, music theory, DSP even further. Of course, I know what you mean - I can only say that you're wrong. I'm just not that kind of person you think I am .

How quickly are you working on fixing the phantom bugs?

If you're asking about pure code programming, debugging, testing, reproducing bugs then it's unfortunately not so quick. Please don't expect that i'll be instantly ready for quick fixes with project developed for like 4 years

Phantom ? Yea, I can say random, or rare but the unexpectable loudness bug can even damage your speakers or more - I wouldn't want my ears to hear such noise on my headphones, would you ?

Do two dodgy reports on kvr warrant the entire collection being withdrawn?

There are more than two dodgy reports + actually It's an author who removed the whole pack from his official website (it was before he decided to stop developing them). My only task was too announce it here + I contacted with websites such as Rekkerd.org etc. Robert asked me to do it because unfortunately he doesnt know english very well.

By "adding at least some small features" Does this, or will this change the 'free' nature of these plugins.

Nope.

And why do they even need additional features?

I think, it's some kind of misunderstanding. I won't turn these plugins upside down. I like these plugins a lot too (I love SixthMonthJune) and if there will be any features, it'll be small changes. Main goal is to keep these synths as much musical, as much gui friendly as they're now.

I know many of you want to see these plugins available again - I want that too and Robert also.

[red37]

Sounds good to me.

[genealex]

PS: Please, don't add no 'new functionality for better usability'!
!

What if you had two versions of the plugin? (original emulation / alternative version)

Also I want to ask you given you have interest in making art: Why do you want that much to limit your tool and have less potential to express yourself the way you whould like?

[Jazz Franco]

Here's a re-edit of my new track, I've posted earlier today, now using only ElektroStudio synths (bar Or2v and Ocet). No FX, only some EQ.

http://www.box.net/shared/470ipdbzxf

If you find any use in this spooky track, feel free to use as a demo etc.

PS: Please, don't add no 'new functionality for better usability'!
!

excellent track ! lovely bassline in the heldon/goblin vein ! more please !

Thanks! The Heldon comparison is especially flattering; I value this band very very high.

Why do you want that much to limit your tool and have less potential to express yourself the way you whould like?

Actually, limiting your tools usually fires up the creativity. It pushes towards finding some unconventional ways in achieving the goal (in my case, at least). As for the ElektroSound in particular, I believe the lion's share of these synths appeal lies exactly in their being true to originals (if not in sound -- I can't make an opinion on that, as I never owned any of the hardware they emulate, then in approach)

[genealex]

Why do you want that much to limit your tool and have less potential to express yourself the way you whould like?

Actually, limiting your tools usually fires up the creativity. It pushes towards finding some unconventional ways in achieving the goal (in my case, at least). As for the ElektroSound in particular, I believe the lion's share of these synths appeal lies exactly in their being true to originals (if not in sound -- I can't make an opinion on that, as I never owned any of the hardware they emulate, then in approach)

In fact I write a lot of my stuff in a free java app in my cellphone (vibe.jar @ getjar.com -I think).
But when it comes to production (& I think these instruments are not only for creating, but for use in the production stage), I don't need to limit the way I can print the creation. Nor I find any fire up in sampling the notes I want and inserting the files in a velocity sensitive sampler. It's just a chore that actually destroys creativity.

[Jazz Franco]

Why do you want that much to limit your tool and have less potential to express yourself the way you whould like?

Actually, limiting your tools usually fires up the creativity. It pushes towards finding some unconventional ways in achieving the goal (in my case, at least). As for the ElektroSound in particular, I believe the lion's share of these synths appeal lies exactly in their being true to originals (if not in sound -- I can't make an opinion on that, as I never owned any of the hardware they emulate, then in approach)

In fact I write a lot of my stuff in a free java app in my cellphone (vibe.jar @ getjar.com -I think).
But when it comes to production (& I think these instruments are not only for creating, but for use in the production stage), I don't need to limit the way I can print the creation. Nor I find any fire up in sampling the notes I want and inserting the files in a velocity sensitive sampler. It's just a chore that actually destroys creativity.

OK, I may agree with velocity sensitivity... but nothing more
Seriously, if, say, Davo gets VCF and envelope control (which the original Davoli lacked, of course), it will become yet another VA emulation, nothing special. That was my point, keeping to the quirky side of those things.

[Aloysius]

Back in the day, many synths did not have velocity sensitivity or afertouch. I remember!

[genealex]

Why do you want that much to limit your tool and have less potential to express yourself the way you whould like?

Actually, limiting your tools usually fires up the creativity. It pushes towards finding some unconventional ways in achieving the goal (in my case, at least). As for the ElektroSound in particular, I believe the lion's share of these synths appeal lies exactly in their being true to originals (if not in sound -- I can't make an opinion on that, as I never owned any of the hardware they emulate, then in approach)

In fact I write a lot of my stuff in a free java app in my cellphone (vibe.jar @ getjar.com -I think).
But when it comes to production (& I think these instruments are not only for creating, but for use in the production stage), I don't need to limit the way I can print the creation. Nor I find any fire up in sampling the notes I want and inserting the files in a velocity sensitive sampler. It's just a chore that actually destroys creativity.

OK, I may agree with velocity sensitivity... but nothing more
Seriously, if, say, Davo gets VCF and envelope control (which the original Davoli lacked, of course), it will become yet another VA emulation, nothing special. That was my point, keeping to the quirky side of those things.

I don't say to try to make a laughable overloaded monster-toy, but not to have a laughable situation when I cannot use it because "the hardware could not respond at the pressure levels back in the day, silly. " either.

[Aloysius]

If you invent a rule for yourself that says you can't use it the way it is, then you can't use it the way it is. Please remember that you invented that rule for yourself or you believed some marketing hype, somewhere along the path of your short life! Nothing more! Nothing less!

[genealex]

If you invent a rule for yourself that says you can't use it the way it is, then you can't use it the way it is. Please remember that you invented that rule for yourself or you believed some marketing hype, somewhere along the path of your short life! Nothing more! Nothing less!

It's nature that invented a rule that says if something has the same level it sounds emotionless (and annoying after a period of time), so I can't use it the way it is if I want to use it over a long period of time and with the intention to cause emotions to the listener.

Edit: If you still think it's me and not nature, you can listen to a classical piece without level variations and find out.

[Aloysius]

Better avoid using compresion so! You wouldn't want to suck the life out of the finished article! I'm bored with this topic! Bottom left . . . stop watching this topic! Click!!!

[genealex]

Better avoid using compresion so! You wouldn't want to suck the life out of the finished article! I'm bored with this topic!

Personally I'm not bored as I still cannot find an excuse to not letting these gems sound much more expressive because of nothing! (should I mention again that we can have an extra, bonus alternative version? )
The only new information is that maybe I am the creator of the machine-gun effect.. I mean, c'mon...

[EvilDragon]

@DNA - if you're doing fixes to synths, there is one thing about Davosynth you need to take care of: portamento goes only to higher notes, according to this article:

http://www.transanalog.com/museum/davol ... isint.html

[Jazz Franco]

If you invent a rule for yourself that says you can't use it the way it is, then you can't use it the way it is. Please remember that you invented that rule for yourself or you believed some marketing hype, somewhere along the path of your short life! Nothing more! Nothing less!

It's nature that invented a rule that says if something has the same level it sounds emotionless (and annoying after a period of time), so I can't use it the way it is if I want to use it over a long period of time and with the intention to cause emotions to the listener.

Edit: If you still think it's me and not nature, you can listen to a classical piece without level variations and find out.

Some of my fave classical pieces (think Scarlatti or Rameau) were written for the harpsichord, which, I'm afraid is not velocity sensitive.
Of course, that was the main reason it gave way to the piano, still I prefer harpscichord pieces played on the harpsichord, not on some more advanced instrument

[D N A]

Actually, limiting your tools usually fires up the creativity.

I agree. Well, it's usually about getting to this sweet spot which gives you enough tools to create something unique, but at the same time, there are just few knobs, the gui is simple etc.

It pushes towards finding some unconventional ways in achieving the goal (in my case, at least). As for the ElektroSound in particular, I believe the lion's share of these synths appeal lies exactly in their being true to originals (if not in sound -- I can't make an opinion on that, as I never owned any of the hardware they emulate, then in approach)

well, it's true but not always for example Micromoon - inspired by the Micromoog, has chorus, stereo delay which is pretty much hmm sci-fi But is there a problem ? I dont think so. On the other hand, I wouldn't add anything to DavoSynth for example.

I don't say to try to make a laughable overloaded monster-toy, but not to have a laughable situation when I cannot use it because "the hardware could not respond at the pressure levels back in the day, silly.

indeed, that's the valid point too