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dreaddd · Post by **dreaddd** » Sun May 24, 2009 6:00 pm

thank you very much for this one Bootsy!

Peace

marce · Post by **marce** » Sun May 24, 2009 6:52 pm

Hi. Can someone explain to me what TesslaPro can do for my mix? I dont catch it. Some "for dumbs" explanation would be apreciated.
(im hearing it with headphones right now, but puting a spectrogram after&before i can see too much difference. What it do?)

Thanks!

Hitchcock Bell · Post by **Hitchcock Bell** » Sun May 24, 2009 7:17 pm

marce wrote:Hi. Can someone explain to me what TesslaPro can do for my mix? I dont catch it. Some "for dumbs" explanation would be apreciated.
(im hearing it with headphones right now, but puting a spectrogram after&before i can see too much difference. What it do?)

Thanks!

I think Bootsie is a genius, of a kind. But a clear explanation of what some of his plugs are actually supposed to do would be very welcome. He's not the only developer (free or payware) who is less than mineral-water clear about what the potential applications of these plugs actually are (however, Bootsie's brilliant reverb kinda speaks for itself). In general, I find this to be an irritating, rather than charming, idiosyncrasy. I'm grateful for their efforts, yes, but irritated about this lack of clarity. Maybe even they don't know!

chilln · Post by **chilln** » Sun May 24, 2009 7:21 pm

Thanks, bootsie!

K-Slash · Post by **K-Slash** » Sun May 24, 2009 7:27 pm

bootsie wrote:
K-Slash wrote:Yeah, I'm also waiting for the TesslaSE mkII .
There won't be a mkII version of it just a re-compiled and slightly optimized version. It will be sound/feature-wise 100% the same. It will probably appear in the first week of June.

No problems, some optimizations are welcome.

GUI-wise, same interface too ?

scottkane · Post by **scottkane** » Sun May 24, 2009 7:38 pm

I m waiting for the 'NastyXTC' sounds yummy!

Zero dB · Post by **Zero dB** » Mon May 25, 2009 6:11 am

Downloaded but have not had a chance to try yet. Look forward to doing so.

So, has the Almighty Manic One heard this yet? Would love to hear your comments B if so

ZdB

shogger · Post by **shogger** » Mon May 25, 2009 6:44 am

Very nice! Thanx a lot Bootsie.

Shogger

infectedpimple · Post by **infectedpimple** » Mon May 25, 2009 7:45 am

Hitchcock Bell wrote:
marce wrote:Hi. Can someone explain to me what TesslaPro can do for my mix? I dont catch it. Some "for dumbs" explanation would be apreciated.
(im hearing it with headphones right now, but puting a spectrogram after&before i can see too much difference. What it do?)

Thanks!
I think Bootsie is a genius, of a kind. But a clear explanation of what some of his plugs are actually supposed to do would be very welcome. He's not the only developer (free or payware) who is less than mineral-water clear about what the potential applications of these plugs actually are (however, Bootsie's brilliant reverb kinda speaks for itself). In general, I find this to be an irritating, rather than charming, idiosyncrasy. I'm grateful for their efforts, yes, but irritated about this lack of clarity. Maybe even they don't know!

Hitchcock Bell,

Bootsy's plugs always come with manuals that provide a few example applications, and sometimes too an assortment of presets aimed to that similar end (although TesslaPro does not). He also has written quite a bit and very informatively about the development and useage of TesslaPro and the "magic" of transients on his blog at [ http://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/ ]. And really, outside of Epicverb and Rescue, his plugs fall basically into the categories of EQs and saturators, with analog-inspired coloration--so, to me at least, there's not a ton of mystery surrounding their possibilities, provided one understands why you'd want to saturate or eq in the first place. Anyhow, beyond that, would you really want Bootsy spending all his time writing hand-holding tutorials for every possible use of his plugins instead making us cool new plugins to play with?

Though I do sympathize in general, having more than once downloaded a plug-in because it looked spiffy but was left scratching my head as to its usefulness or was left very perplexed by its options and having no helpful documentation to reference. But I think Bootsy does a pretty good job of covering that kind of stuff in his manuals

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Mon May 25, 2009 11:34 am

Zero dB wrote:Downloaded but have not had a chance to try yet. Look forward to doing so.

So, has the Almighty Manic One heard this yet? Would love to hear your comments B if so

ZdB

I did comment already. I said: "Holy f*** sh**** this sounds f**** amazing!!!".

Cheers!
bManic

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Mon May 25, 2009 11:43 am

marce wrote:Hi. Can someone explain to me what TesslaPro can do for my mix? I dont catch it. Some "for dumbs" explanation would be apreciated.
(im hearing it with headphones right now, but puting a spectrogram after&before i can see too much difference. What it do?)

Thanks!

Basically it seems to do what a lot of different analogue gear with tubes/transformers do, with a little twist (the transient knob thing). It shapes the audio with some gentle EQ (not sure if bootsie actually uses an internal EQ but it's irrelevant anyways), some phase smear and most important of all, harmonic distortion.

I highly suggest you download Christian Budde's VST plugin analyzer and see for yourself what happens. If you happen to have any analogue hardware around you then you can analyze that as well with the application. You'll be amazed just how non-flat these can be. These frequency/phase response changes combined with various harmonic distortion is what I call "the mojo" of a unit. Some mojo is good, some mojo is bad (for instance the infamous original mackie 1604 mixer, before the VLZ series, was bad.. very bad imho). In the end it all depends on what you want to achieve with it.

When mixing completely in the analogue domain, you get all these weird frequency response and phase response curves mixed together from all over the place, and all that subtle but lovely distortion, combined in to a nice mushy soup. This is kind of the spice that is missing from our digital world (which can be a blessing as well as a curse!). Because of this it is usually thought of as being easier to get a mix working with hardware than software. Using plugins with built in complex harmonic distortion and other kinds of non-linearities (read: subtly unpredictable behavior) you can find yourself having a different mixing experience, sometimes for the better.

Cheers!
bManic

marce · Post by **marce** » Mon May 25, 2009 2:03 pm

Thanks infectedpimple and bmanic. I have understood your explanation, i believe. Will play with it a little more.
Do you believe this plugins are more intended for a Mastering or for specific tracks?

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Mon May 25, 2009 2:53 pm

bootsie's Plugins are more aimed at tracking and post production rather than mastering. It "can" be used for mastering, but only for coloring in my opinion.

Still have to test TesslaPro, but my rig doesn't like audio work at the moment due to reasons unknown.

shanecgriffo · Post by **shanecgriffo** » Mon May 25, 2009 3:25 pm

i stuck it on the stereo buss tonight,of a few mixes i've been working on.. nice!
the drive just smears the audio in a nice way to reduce a few rough edges and makes it more pleasant to the ears (just in subtle doses tho!)

Cooker · Post by **Cooker** » Mon May 25, 2009 6:46 pm

Seems I'm the only one here who couldn't find much use for mastering here...maybe its the material I have, still I'll use it mainly on groups.

TesslaPRO (update v1.0.1)