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johnsonsx · Post by **johnsonsx** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:37 pm

Hey!
What kind of sounds are you using to create beat for song? Kick, hat, snares, claps? This is the basic for the beat but there are a lot of things more in the beat! So how do you choose the sounds or are you making them yourself

Sweet

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:02 pm

That's a very broad question.

Depends on the piece. I might use conventional drums, maybe electronic sounds, maybe various percussion noises, etc.

ThomasKoot · Post by **ThomasKoot** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:47 pm

For the other stuff besides the usual kicks, claps and hats using your creativity gives the best results. The cool thing is that you can get away with almost anything when you use it in a musical way. For example recording some stuff around the house and then cut them up in a sample editor. Adding these hand crafted sounds to your beats really adds personality to it.

Then there is of course an easier method, buy a loop library and add some percussive loops to the original beat. Use something like a loop player so you can easily audition all samples together with your beat.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:55 pm

I usually get a beat together using sounds I've recorded myself, or a drum loop I've recorded, and then process it until it sounds completely different. I use bitcrushers, compression and FSU plugins mainly. Try recording doors slamming for kick drums, and bash bits of metal together for snares. Then pitch and process 'til they fit in with the track you're writing.

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:58 pm

I would use anything and everything that I have to create the drum parts. Sometimes I make quite a few attempts before deciding on one attempt or another.

johnsonsx · Post by **johnsonsx** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:30 pm

ThomasKoot wrote:Then there is of course an easier method, buy a loop library and add some percussive loops to the original beat.

But is that legally just to edit downloaded loops and then insert them into my track?
I'm interested to make nice beat for electro house! I think i will try to put everything like interesting sounds, but can anyone give me advice what kind of VST's i should find for beat making (if there is something like that).
Thanx!

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:31 pm

Not if you buy a loop library and they're royalty free.

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:22 pm

Totally depends. Usually its Toontrack's EZ & SD 2 for 'real' drums, NI's Battery (Big Fish Audio Drums Overkill & Zero-G Nostalgia libraries i bracket under the Battery/NI banner even though they use Kontakt/Intakt/Kompakt...etc frontends) & Ableton Live's Drumracks for my own put together sounds into a usable kit format (honarable mention goes to Muon's CM-202 Plug-in) and then when i want drum synthesis its uTonic 2 for harsh and odd sounds, Drumatic 3 for its punch (honarable mention goes to LinPlug's CM-505 plug-in, DLM eratic & erratic2 CM plug-ins). Then as a standalone generator i use sometimes MDA's DrumSynthII and render the .Wav's and dump them in any of the sampler's i have mentioned

Edit: Nice does not compute with anything i create FWIW!

Nekro

mhemnarch · Post by **mhemnarch** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:00 pm

johnsonsx wrote:Hey!
What kind of sounds are you using to create beat for song? Kick, hat, snares, claps? This is the basic for the beat but there are a lot of things more in the beat! So how do you choose the sounds or are you making them yourself
Sweet

Once of the best approaches is to get a sampler and load it up with good, legal samples. rekkerd.org and rhythm-lab.com are two good sites to get you started.

ThomasKoot · Post by **ThomasKoot** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:09 pm

But is that legally just to edit downloaded loops and then insert them into my track?

It is if you legally obtained the loop-library. Downloading loop libraries illegal isn't allowed in the first place, so you can't use them in productions.

But anyways, making your own loops is much more fun and gives a sound that is much more personal.

yellowfever · Post by **yellowfever** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:10 pm

Start off with a good all round sample cd containing loads of different hits (eBay?). Load different hits on audio tracks in your DAW then experiment. Dont stick to 1/16 quantise - use 1/32 or 1/64 for some variation. The secret, I think, of a great rhythym loop is VARIATION; don't just copy paste and repeat 64 times

johnsonsx · Post by **johnsonsx** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:15 pm

Thanx for the answers!

ThomasKoot · Post by **ThomasKoot** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:42 pm

yellowfever wrote:The secret, I think, of a great rhythym loop is VARIATION; don't just copy paste and repeat 64 times

Couldn't agree more, the variation is really what keeps it moving.

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:52 pm

But don't dismiss repetition, as that can be the best solution sometimes. Depends on the piece really.

FrankDee · Post by **FrankDee** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:10 pm

Addicted Drums, Eazy Drummer

need more??

How to make a nice beat?