Largo is here!

[MitchK1989]

Yep, a Waldorf wavetable exist of 64 singe cycle waves (similar or completely different) and you can sweep through them with an LFO or an envelope (or with any modulator actualy).

The Alt 1 and 2 tables are 127 waves (one position's an empty slot). The rest of Largo's are 64 as you mentioned.

ew

Yup. If you want to find other synths that do this sort of thing look at Surge and Massive.

Zebra does it too, but with only 16 waves per table (but you get to draw the waves yourself or construct them through additive synthesis)


I will not be picking this up as I feel Surge is a better alternative, and I already own that one.

[Gribs]

Lets try that again.

If you are willing to write sfz scripts then Rapture and Dimension Pro are capable of performing true wavetable stepping/sequencing.

The Introduction to Cakewalk Synthesizers book has more sfz stuff in it. More stuff can be found on Cakewalk's, especially in the forum where there are examples of how to program SFZ scripts to do wavetable stepping/sequencing.

Remember SFZ is basically a scripting language and open to many possibilities. The difficulty is, of course, that one has to write the scripts or get them from someone. The problem is that, at least AFAIK, unlike familiar scripting/programming languages such as Python there is no easily reachable, regularly updated online resource that documents the current SFZ standard, tracks old versions of the standard, keeps release notes for each new release of the standard, etc.

[MitchK1989]

Lets try that again.

If you are willing to write sfz scripts then Rapture and Dimension Pro are capable of performing true wavetable stepping/sequencing.

The Introduction to Cakewalk Synthesizers book has more sfz stuff in it. More stuff can be found on Cakewalk's, especially in the forum where there are examples of how to program SFZ scripts to do wavetable stepping/sequencing.

Remember SFZ is basically a scripting language and open to many possibilities. The difficulty is, of course, that one has to write the scripts or get them from someone. The problem is that, at least AFAIK, unlike familiar scripting/programming languages such as Python there is no easily reachable, regularly updated online resource that documents the current SFZ standard, tracks old versions of the standard, keeps release notes for each new release of the standard, etc.

Yeah, if you want to set up a couple of automatic over-time crossfades, but still, no way to set up a bank of waves and then actually program them to be modulatable from inside rapture.

[Gribs]

I should also add that Kubik is a true wave table sequencing synthesizer as well. It is also an additive synthesizer, and waves are represented in terms of amplitudes and phases of the partials

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=189804

so if you want to write your own code to create waves for Kubik you can

[ckatrun411]

Actually, the largo is starting to make a bit more sense to me now...

[Nokenoku]

http://waldorf.electro-music.com/microw ... dio-demos/

^^^^


That is an awesome demo. I'd be pretty surprised if the Largo, can do this. Didn't anybody else find the audio demos of Largo, a little lackluster?

Jep, totally!
It's just the same as for the Blofeld. From what I heard of Largo and Blofeld yet, they rather seem to be a step back .. sounds lifeless, digitally-boring and harsh to me.

The old analog Waldorf Synths seem to have a much better sound than their digital brothers.

I'm still waiting for a Largo/Blofeld-Demo with a pleasing sound.

[ew]

The old analog Waldorf Synths seem to have a much better sound than their digital brothers.

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What old analog synths? The Pulse and the RackAttack were the only two analog synths Waldorf's ever made.

ew

[masstronaut]

The Wave, Microwave and Q+ all had analogue filters I think.

Anyway, the Waldorf digital stuff sounds great too. Forget widdly demos, just try some simple stuff and see how nice the oscillators and filters are. And the wavetable shit is nuts, combined with FM, comb filters, filter FM...

[Nokenoku]

Yeah, then give me a demo ... Waldorf!!!

[ckatrun411]

The synth is being sold on the Waldorf sound. We all know what that is, I suppose. Gosh, if it is really Q on a screen, or Microwave, on a screen, than it is a must buy, I suppose.



But I really didn't quite, "hear this Largo," yet. I really want to hear it. You can hear, the Synth Squad is just plain HOT!





Maybe Largo is more illusive though. A little bit more of a leap of faith, and something to be looked at in a different way.

Buying software is sometimes a gut feeling. I don't know what it is, but I'm starting to warm up to the energy that is behind this Waldorf enigma.

[fmr]

The Wave, Microwave and Q+ all had analogue filters I think.

Anyway, the Waldorf digital stuff sounds great too. Forget widdly demos, just try some simple stuff and see how nice the oscillators and filters are. And the wavetable shit is nuts, combined with FM, comb filters, filter FM...

All three have analog filters, true, but the Microwave II, Microwave XT, Q, Micro Q, etc., all are purely digital. I have both the Microwave and the Microwave II, and the only thing missing in the Largo, based on what I read and already saw, is the possibility to create our own waves and wavetables, as we could in the Microwaves (although only through Sys-X.
Regarding the confusion of the term wavetable - a wavetable is a table where there are waves stored, therefore, any romplers is a wavetable synth, and the Dimension Pro and Rapture are indeed true wavetable synths... BUT
The term wavetable as used by Wolfgang Palm, and first implemented in the PPG Wave, the ancestor of all the Waldorf wavetable dinasty, is, more exactly, wavetable dynamic scanning synthesis, which means that we have a wavetable that we could built, either by defining up to 64 waves (only 32 in the PPG), or by interpolating through some waves, and have the oscillators read dynamically from it, fixed on a wave from THAT wavetable, or travelling slower or faster through parts of it or the entire table, back and forth, looped, whatever.
In the Microwaves (and the Wave), we can have all sorts of wavetables, even algorithmically created, and that's what I I miss in the current generation of wavetable synths from Waldorf. But they have other advantages (filters seem to be better and more varied - and we have two, we have more oscillators, other oscillator cross modulation options, etc.).
And let's not forget this is a soft synth. If there is a demand, Waldorf may very well implement what lacks on it to overpass completely the Microwaves.

[ckatrun411]

Yep, yep...


Now I remember. There are like four different types of wavetable synthesis running around...

[Gribs]

I like the Waldorf digital synth sounds very much. In fact a Q Phoenix KB just arrived today for me (partly in trade for a uQ Phoenix) If you don't like the preset sounds you can always roll your own. There are plenty of modulation options and voices possible with multi-instruments that can fatten up your sounds, too.

As I progress I find that I like many digital synth sounds better than analog for quite a bit of my noodling. I am a tweaker and a noodler when it comes to synths.

[ckatrun411]

I do roll my own sounds. I can't stand presets. I also like digital synths, analog is dead! The world needs to get over it.

[djanthonyw]

Well, before the world gets over actual analog synths I think they need to be emulated correctly in the digital realm first... with the Synth Squad coming I think we'll be that much closer.