Hi!
As I'm not a native speaker, I haven't got the slightest idea how these ones are called:
Pitches that do not belong to the current scale.
In german the term is "skalenfremd" (literally "foreign to the scale")
Any ideas?
Thanks
Sören
What's the english term
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- KVRist
- 333 posts since 27 Mar, 2006 from Hamburg, Germany
und doch, doch, und doooooch!
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
"Chromatic." The word is used in many (mostly closely related) ways:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatonic_and_chromatic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatonic_and_chromatic
Diatonic and chromatic notes
In modern usage, the meanings of the terms diatonic note and chromatic note vary according to the meaning of the term diatonic scale. Generally - not universally - a note is understood as diatonic in a context if it belongs to the diatonic scale that is used in that context; otherwise it is chromatic
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
If the scales is already more than diatonic, but is a scale, cf. a "diminished octatonic", 'chromatic' does not necessarily mean 'foreign to'. In harmony class it gets to be called 'non-harmonic (tones)'.
this is one of those things where German language has a single word where regular English required, for instance those three words. Jazz musicians' parlance uses (playing) "outside".
Concrete example: the harmony E G Bb Db, a diminished seventh chord.
Scale derivation: E F G Ab Bb C Db D. Not diatonic/Chromatic. Not foreign to the harmony, in fact derived from that harmony, with passing tones, making the scale form. But in terms of a certain key it may function in, it may be considered outside that key in strict terms.
More traditional example: We're in say C minor. Over the dominant chord, G, we have an apoggiatura or anticipation tone of F#, resolves to the G or moves to the seventh, F. That is a case where something is chromatic and might not be considered diatonic. But it's more meaningful to say, F# is a'non-harmonic tone'.
this is one of those things where German language has a single word where regular English required, for instance those three words. Jazz musicians' parlance uses (playing) "outside".
Concrete example: the harmony E G Bb Db, a diminished seventh chord.
Scale derivation: E F G Ab Bb C Db D. Not diatonic/Chromatic. Not foreign to the harmony, in fact derived from that harmony, with passing tones, making the scale form. But in terms of a certain key it may function in, it may be considered outside that key in strict terms.
More traditional example: We're in say C minor. Over the dominant chord, G, we have an apoggiatura or anticipation tone of F#, resolves to the G or moves to the seventh, F. That is a case where something is chromatic and might not be considered diatonic. But it's more meaningful to say, F# is a'non-harmonic tone'.