Yes, commercial musicians use them. Professional sound design firms use a LOT of variety in their sound creation. Does Reason have anything to compete with Stylus RMX, Omnisphere, Zebra, etc.? No, it doesn't. These are professional tools that are used in mainstream pro productions every day. Not just a few, but all over the place.X-Soul wrote: Reason have graintable, subtractive, fm, phase distortion, sampling, hypersampling, wavetable, waveshaping. How much do we miss then? Physical modelling, additive and granular - most of commercial musicians use them, huh?
Reason does have many synth TYPES, but each synth type is quite limited compared to other things out there. I'm not saying the Reason synths aren't powerful or good. They can be. But Reason does not present the best of the sampling world by far, or the best of the FM world. It can DO those things, but not at the level of the available VST plugins. And those VST plugins I'm speaking of are the ones that do get used every day because of their power. For dance music, perhaps the Reason synths are enough. For the rest of the world, that's probably not the case.
Sure you can. But you're still missing quite a bit of the power available elsewhere. There is no very high quality reverb that competes with Altiverb and Breverb and others, for instance. The plugins in Reason, even the good ones, lack flexibility and options. Again, I'm not saying they are BAD. I'm just saying that they don't measure up to many of the VST plugins that are out there. You won't find any complex visualization, no noise reduction, no audio tuning of any kind, and very little in the way of off-the-wall creative effects. The amp simulation is severely limited compared to even just one plugin(name the one you want, from Guitar Rig to TH-1 to Amplitube, or whatever- all better than the entire amp package in the Reason/Record package) in VST form. Maybe it has the effects YOU want, but let's not pretend that it has a full compliment of effects, even with creative routing.Which ones? You know you can recreate alot of missed fx'es there with combinator. Multiband compression for example - easily.Not all types of effects are there
Did I say it is impossible to make a real sound masterpiece? You said: "But Reason have almost everything for all music/sound ideas realisation, isnt it?"It limits reason in sound possibilities somehow? You cant make Tchaikovskiy/Beethoven/Bach (put any other great composer) arrangement there? It impossible to make a real sound masterpiece there? This is a rhetorical questions.Audio editing is not there in any form(and Record does almost nothing except very very basic editing). The MIDI tools that exist in hosts like Cubase aren't there.
Reason and/or Record lack any type of tuning, spectral management and editing, has no groove quantize, no way of pocketing tracks(which is done on almost every commercial release these days), no visualization or advanced metering, no way to tame clipping or do anything else that requires sample level editing, etc. It goes on and on. No advanced crossfading, no nothing. VERY limited. These are things that DO affect sound and the quality of the recordings. And again, if you are making some electronic, pattern based music, or whatever, Reason may be sufficient. But as I said above, let's not pretend it can do things it can't.
No, it's because Reason can't do all that is needed for their productions. I mentioned many things above, and there is more.Why do you think so many people ReWire it to their main host?
To use audio tracks and use some little better quality vsts/ their daw sequencer is more handy for them/hardware/big studio which handles many projects from different artists.
I'm not wrong. And Record adds very little for audio besides recording. And the quality of sample libraries for Reason are nowhere near the quality of things like VSL, Chris Hein/Scarbee, EWQLSO, WIVI, and others.Really a ton? Maybe 1-5% if to be realistic? Which can be compencated with good sampling libraries or some smart device routing. Maybe its easier to think for you that Reason is limited in sound, because you cannot accept it or you just wont think that you can be wrong? I agree tho that it lacks features for a big studio integration. But lacks only a little (few synth types and audio recording which Record delivers) in individual studio based on soft synthesis only.There is SO MUCH that is not there. It's not just things to make work easier or faster, but things to manipulate the sound as well as creating the sound. ... There is a TON of sound potential that it doesn't reach into.
There's nothing wrong with Reason being limited. There's nothing wrong with thinking it's a great app(I think it is). There is nothing wrong with thinking that it has everything needed for YOU. But, once again, let's not pretend it's something it's not.
I'm not criticizing your tools. I enjoyed using Reason in the times I've used it. It's a fun app, and has lots of possibilities. I'm just being realistic.
Oh, and Record is still a mess ergonomically(in case anyone lost the topic of this thread!).
Brent
