Reverberate - Convolution reverb with modulation for Mac and PC (AU, AAX, VST)

[liquidsonics]

hi,
i bought reverberate yesterday after using it some hours.
i was looking for a impulse reverb for a while and i can say it's very nice indeed.

+1
It fits my needs perfectly, kudos to LiquidSonics for a great product

Thanks guys

[p356]

I can't seem to get Reverberate to show up as a send in Cubase SE. Is it because it's so old a program, or just me?

[liquidsonics]

I can't seem to get Reverberate to show up as a send in Cubase SE. Is it because it's so old a program, or just me?

I am unable to test on Cubase SE, so if anybody else has access to it I'd be interested to know if it works for them.

[p356]

I can't seem to get Reverberate to show up as a send in Cubase SE. Is it because it's so old a program, or just me?

I am unable to test on Cubase SE, so if anybody else has access to it I'd be interested to know if it works for them.

Well, I just tested it in Cubase and it didn't work, that's why I just wrote that post! Just kidding, anybody else run into this?

[ichijou]

does work for guitar cab impulses as well?

[audiosabre]

I bought reverberate about 20 minutes ago after hours of messing around with it. I have to say; the zero latency in FL Studio is a real accomplishment. For the asking price this is a no brainer for me. I lacked a convo reverb and the realtime aspect, along with the modulation possibilities, made it a sure buy.

I don't think you should add more presets, you'll just bloat the installer. The whole point of a convo is that it sounds as good as the IRs you load into it (except the modulation makes this extra special). Like you say there are lots of good free IRs floating around, as well as commercial stuff.

The sound is great, but I'm not the biggest fan of the 2D UI though. It's cool, in a minimalistic way, but I think it should look more 3D. If it looks like it has depth; the sound is also perceived this way (the wonders of psycho-acoustics). It looks too flat and 2D, IMO, but I dig the colour scheme and the style you've chosen. I just want to see it jump off the screen, like most of the coolest plugin UIs. I know it's easier said than done, so I'm happy in the fact it performs and sounds great for now

Cheers,

John

[liquidsonics]

I bought reverberate about 20 minutes ago after hours of messing around with it. I have to say; the zero latency in FL Studio is a real accomplishment. For the asking price this is a no brainer for me. I lacked a convo reverb and the realtime aspect, along with the modulation possibilities, made it a sure buy.

I don't mind admitting FL was the toughest test case for zero latency, it supplies samples in very inconvenient block sizes when trying to get efficient convolution going. For most hosts you can kinda fudge it synchronising to the ASIO block size, but for FL it genuinely has to be zero latency! I am glad the effort is appreciated

I don't think you should add more presets, you'll just bloat the installer. The whole point of a convo is that it sounds as good as the IRs you load into it (except the modulation makes this extra special). Like you say there are lots of good free IRs floating around, as well as commercial stuff.

It's interesting to hear you say that. If I do extra IRs with lots of presets that showcase the modulation, I will probably put it at a higher price and as a separate product to keep the £30 minimalist option available.

The sound is great, but I'm not the biggest fan of the 2D UI though. It's cool, in a minimalistic way, but I think it should look more 3D. If it looks like it has depth; the sound is also perceived this way (the wonders of psycho-acoustics). It looks too flat and 2D, IMO, but I dig the colour scheme and the style you've chosen. I just want to see it jump off the screen, like most of the coolest plugin UIs. I know it's easier said than done, so I'm happy in the fact it performs and sounds great for now

I guess this is personal preference, but I will note your opinion down, you're the first person to say this really.

Matt
ps. Reverberate got a review in Computer Music UK this month (Sept 09 issue), got a 9/10

[blakecasimir]

The sound is great, but I'm not the biggest fan of the 2D UI though. It's cool, in a minimalistic way, but I think it should look more 3D. If it looks like it has depth; the sound is also perceived this way (the wonders of psycho-acoustics). It looks too flat and 2D, IMO,

John, have you never used Ableton?

That's your opinion mate, but to be honest, I have to say that I've heard this argument sometimes and I think it's a big load of tosh.

Perhaps, just perhaps, a switchable GUI could be an interesting possibility for Reverberate. But I think there's a lot to be said for the minimalistic but CLEAR, UNCLUTTERED and easy to read interface that Reverberate currently has. I realise that could be taken subjectively, but for what it's worth:

Take Superwave P8's "realistic" panel, which took me a good 20-30 minutes of solid play before I started to feel vaguely comfortable with it. Now consider Reverberate's clear, simple and again uncluttered looks, which I was comfortable within a couple of minutes. The reasons are obvious, and this is why I mentioned Ableton: it's quick and easy to see what is what, and I think this is vital.

And just for what it's worth: I think plugin makers are a little hung-up on wanting to make their plugs look like hardware boxes. Bootsie of "Variety Of Sound" fame, has GUI artists that do a good job of this, but despite my love of his plugs, I still find them slower to navigate than Reverberate, and Ableton in general.

Matt
ps. Reverberate got a review in Computer Music UK this month (Sept 09 issue), got a 9/10

Much deserved, Matt. I feel that Reverberate will become a staple plug for many, MANY software-using musicians. Simple but effective, and inexpensive. And one of the best purchases I've made in years - I find it difficult to get a poor reverb sound now.

[kmonkey]

I bought reverberate about 20 minutes ago after hours of messing around with it. I have to say; the zero latency in FL Studio is a real accomplishment. For the asking price this is a no brainer for me. I lacked a convo reverb and the realtime aspect, along with the modulation possibilities, made it a sure buy.

I don't mind admitting FL was the toughest test case for zero latency, it supplies samples in very inconvenient block sizes when trying to get efficient convolution going. For most hosts you can kinda fudge it synchronising to the ASIO block size, but for FL it genuinely has to be zero latency! I am glad the effort is appreciated

I don't think you should add more presets, you'll just bloat the installer. The whole point of a convo is that it sounds as good as the IRs you load into it (except the modulation makes this extra special). Like you say there are lots of good free IRs floating around, as well as commercial stuff.

It's interesting to hear you say that. If I do extra IRs with lots of presets that showcase the modulation, I will probably put it at a higher price and as a separate product to keep the £30 minimalist option available.

The sound is great, but I'm not the biggest fan of the 2D UI though. It's cool, in a minimalistic way, but I think it should look more 3D. If it looks like it has depth; the sound is also perceived this way (the wonders of psycho-acoustics). It looks too flat and 2D, IMO, but I dig the colour scheme and the style you've chosen. I just want to see it jump off the screen, like most of the coolest plugin UIs. I know it's easier said than done, so I'm happy in the fact it performs and sounds great for now

I guess this is personal preference, but I will note your opinion down, you're the first person to say this really.

Matt
ps. Reverberate got a review in Computer Music UK this month (Sept 09 issue), got a 9/10

Yep, your FL Studio effort is amazing Finally true zero latency

If you could do it, can you make that IR tail is modulated in a way how ArtsAcoustic reverb is modulating tail. That is probably one of best reverb tail modulation right now.. It can be very subtle and it can be very very not so subtle but still very musical

[audiosabre]

Hi Matt, your effort is definitely appreciated. FWIW there's quite a bit of buzz (amongst the in-the-knows) at the I-L forum concerning your plug having zero-latency in FL. Even if not many people say it, it's really appreciated. Most people thought it wasn't possible (you miracle worker)

I'm a huge advocate of choice, so the idea to sell a seperate product with extra IR's seems a really good solution.

Btw I am a visual artist too. It's not surprising I have a unique outlook on things. My artwork is hyper-realism (a hardcore form of photorealism), which is probably why is prefer something to actually seem as if I can reach out and touch it, instead of being 2D. It's probably just my style.

Yes Chis, I've dabbled with Ableton. I am not a fan of Ableton's GUI. I pretty much think the opposite of most people on that one. I see I'm in the minority, again . To people, the clean and simple UI of Ableton is clinical, boring and uninteresting to me. The best thing about Ableton's UI are all the rounded edges, that's about it. Not that I want clutter, glitter and lights flashing everywhere. To me a good GUI is akin to ohm force's funky stuff (Ohmicide for example, which funnily enough has a similar scheme to reverberate, except switch the green for red). It's artistic, although sometimes the funky skins can be a little too much (Symptohm). However, I do respect the innovation and uniqueness that the force put into their stuff. It's rewarding, and more importantly, it's fun. Btw, I do agree the psycho-acoustic thing is a little bit BS (tbh it was half-joke, half-serious). Take it with a pinch of salt

Yes it's just a preference, thought I may as well voice it

John

[blakecasimir]

(re: Ableton's GUI): clinical, boring and uninteresting to me

I would hardly call it pretty, it's functional and - yes - clinical. It gets the job done, minimum of fuss. Now, perhaps they could take a lesson from the Reverberate GUI because somehow it seems a little less soulless to me... but even then I don't look to the GUI for inspiration, I listen to the sounds I'm getting. I don't want a fancy "3D" GUI getting in the way, and every time I try something like Reaper, Reason, Fruity Loops, Sonar etc... I find them too cluttered and messy.

Ableton may have gone a little too far in the opposite direction, and they could do with adding some light shading here and there to their interface, but there's something to be said for its immediacy. You might find it boring, but I bet you'd still find it faster to read than *insert DAW here*.

And to bring this back on topic, I'd be interested to see a mock-up GUI for a more "rack-like" Reverberate. And I'd wager it would be pretty but harder to read.

[liquidsonics]

I don't think I'll be mocking up a rack style interface, but I did experiment with Space Designer style looks before deciding to strip it down even further towards Live style looks. I think I was most inspired by the Sky+ and XBox 360 green rings in the end I wanted to try a clean, clear and modern look, and I think it worked out well once I sorted out a few initial contrast issues, thanks to some of the people contributing during the beta phase.

I am pleased part of the FL crowd is enjoying zero latency. I remember racking my mind on a long car journey about a year ago to work out how to achieve the zero latency mode efficiently when hosts just dump strange indeterminate numbers of samples (sometimes not even a multiple of 2) on you seemingly as a challenge to the coder! What doesn't kill you makes you stronger... I am pleased it's worked out well for you guys.

[audiosabre]

LOL, I find FL Studio's GUI to be the best one, then again I'm biased. I'll go back to your original comment and say it's a case of each to their own

Now I understand the UI a lot better; if you were going for the xbox 360/Sky box type of vibe I totally get it I never thought it was inherently bad anyway, it was a small niggle that is more than made up for with the performance and sound of the plugin. If you could make it more 360 like I'd be impressed. Maybe you could, erm, *steal* their blades functionality for the different sections of reverberate. That would look uber cool. Just a thought...

John

[dickiefunk]

I don't think you should add more presets, you'll just bloat the installer. The whole point of a convo is that it sounds as good as the IRs you load into it (except the modulation makes this extra special). Like you say there are lots of good free IRs floating around, as well as commercial stuff.

It's interesting to hear you say that. If I do extra IRs with lots of presets that showcase the modulation, I will probably put it at a higher price and as a separate product to keep the £30 minimalist option available.

Would there be an upgrade option for existing customers?

[xybre]

I'm curious. What happens if the IR gets moved? Does Reverberate silently fail? Does it pop up a window? Does it look in obvious places? what happens of it can't find the IR?