Anybody got a Plugiator yet ?

[SSBUK]

Any news on a software update for the plugiator standalone. I seem to remember this was due end of 2008. The noise when switching to the B4000 plug-in still bothers me.

[elxsound]

Yes, it is functioning well, but he CME itself produces a noise if connected with USB (not the ASX, it has its own USB).

I tried everything but can not get this noise away, it's a highly feep-tone...

hmmm.... not cool.

Well, after doing some searching yesterday, it looks like there are some more options available as expansions then when I purchased it. I know not the right thread for this, but while on the subject... I'm particularly interested in Neo Synth's expansion boards because of the removable SD card slot. Unfortnately, it doesn't look like they're released yet, but once they are, it'll be first on my list to check out.

Anyways, thanks for renewing my interest in this!

[Tupapupa]

I got the noise away, seems have to do something with the Voltage from the net, i changed some connection plugs - and now it is quite, mysterious
So if someone got the same, try different plugs.

[SSBUK]

Any news on a software update for the plugiator standalone. I seem to remember this was due end of 2008. The noise when switching to the B4000 plug-in still bothers me.

Ray? Anything?

[psavolai]

Hi Everyone,

I bought the Plugiator to get my hands on a cheap Moog.
And that promise was fullfilled .. to the letter.

Plugiator really sounds like a moog and the editing is ... well, cheap.
The flash software works, but not always.
So I built a template on my Novation keyboard to represent the editing panel.
Once you get used to the template it becomes a little more bearable to edit the sounds.

I am not complaining, I got exactly what I paid for.
But I still have some things on my mind that I'd like talk about:

1. The presets are pretty lame.
Don't get me wrong. The hardware is wonderful. They just haven't spent enough time on programming the presets. For example when comparing to Arturia's MinimoogV the case is quite obvious. They have superb presets in Arturia ... and there's plenty of them to choose from.
I wish there was a way to import Arturia's presets to my Plugiator Minimax.

The presets for the other synhts are pretty useless too.
Hopefully the online sound exchange will fix this situation in near future.

On the other hand. When you get your hands on not one,but eight new synthesizers at once you are pretty stumped. It takes some time to get used to all these new virtual gadgets and you will propably not be able to produce any useful sound in quite a while. So a few more banks from the factory would be a really nice thing.

2. The B4000 is not that great.
The presets (compared to B4) are really flat. Again, a tool to import/convert B4 presets would help a lot.

On my Plugiator the higher drawbars produce sound a tad later than the lower ones. I haven't owned a B3, so I don't know if this is the case in real life, but it just doesn't feel/sound very good when playing. (again comparing to B4).

So I really don't use B4000 at all.

3. Prodyssey presets
Well, we talked about the quality of the presets earlier but I can't help it.
With these presets the prodyssey(or Fmagia for that matter) is hardly worth the 25 Euros I paid for it.
Luckily I can program new sounds myself ... but it takes a lot of time and who has time ... hands up ... anyone ??

4. How about a String Machine emulation ?
As you propably know String Machines produce their distinctive sound with a technical solution that differs from regular synth. That's why you are never going to get a good String Machine sound out of your MiniMax.
A real String Machine is basically an organ like basic sound plus a set of phasers on top of that.
I'd really like to have an emulation of that running on my Plugiator.

5. How about a user forum ?
I'd like to talk to other owners of plugiator and exchange knowledge and experiences. Please open an official User Audio Plugiator Forum somewhere.

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All in all I am very pleased since the unit was extremely cheap and it really does sound like a moog. It cut's through a live band in a way no other synth does.

My problem is that I have to spend a lot of time programming my own sounds instead of utilizing factory presets.
- Had I bought a REAL moog that would have been the case as well ... so why complain ?

I somehow don't feel like spending weeks on programming these well known signature sounds that everyone (including me) expects to get from their moog.

After all these sounds are why we buy Moog and not some other brand synths.


cheers,

petri.

[erminardi]

The real Minimoog, Odyssey, etc. also requires a lot of time to create "presets"... ^_^

[Uncle E]

Plugiator really sounds like a moog and the editing is ... well, cheap.

Contact Use and ask them to send you the beta VSTi editors. Editing becomes ridiculously easy then.

I wish there was a way to import Arturia's presets to my Plugiator Minimax.

That won't happen but I'm surprised it's not possible to load the Scope presets. Personally, I've been programming all my own sounds with the VST editors.

2. The B4000 is not that great.

That's too bad! I've still mostly been using my Scope B4000, it sounds fantastic - much more realistic than B4 - and I haven't noticed the upper-range latency you're talking about.

With these presets the prodyssey(or Fmagia for that matter) is hardly worth the 25 Euros I paid for it.

FMagia was actually a pleasant surprise for me. I didn't expect it to sound so much like a DX.

4. How about a String Machine emulation ?

I don't think there's ever been a string machine in Scope so they may not have the building blocks to do it, though it should be worth it for them to try if the product is a success. Creamware had a guitar physical model that was mostly cheesy (think Richie Sambora playing the solo to "Blaze of Glory") but could do some interesting things when tweaked. I know this is very different from what you're talking about, your question just made me think of it and it should be an easy thing for them to add to Plugiator.

5. How about a user forum ?

There's always the Scope forum at Planet Z, I haven't brought up Plugiator there yet but they shouldn't object to talking about it:

http://forums.planetz.com/

I'd like to talk to other owners of plugiator and exchange knowledge and experiences.

Well, that's what we're doing here.

My problem is that I have to spend a lot of time programming my own sounds instead of utilizing factory presets.

If Plugiator catches on and the VSTi's are publicly released, I'm sure people will be sharing sounds freely. I'm just glad it's easy to turn down the delay and chorus right from the front panel.

- Had I bought a REAL moog that would have been the case as well ... so why complain ?

Oh, you have every right to complain. The only reason I'm doing OK with mine is because I was using the VSTi's from the very beginning. Do you know if the ASX version is easier to edit since the CME keyboards have more controllers?

[Mr Arkadin]

I wish there was a way to import Arturia's presets to my Plugiator Minimax.

The presets for the other synhts are pretty useless too.
Hopefully the online sound exchange will fix this situation in near future.

i have lots of presets available on the planet z site for the Scope Minimax (and other synths that Plugiator also has), i'm surprised that there isn't some way to convert Scope .pre files to whatever Plugiator uses. Maybe email Use-Audio about at least getting .pre files to import which should be easier than getting Arturia presets to work.

Also i would ask Use about B4000, as B2003 on Scope (same thing) is fine. You may need to update your firmware or something. No-one's mentioned it in the last 8 or so(?) years or so that it's been around. Again i have many presets that you could use for that too.

[keyboardman9999]

I have a Plugiator and it works well. The only problem is with the following message.
Does anyone have any ideas?
The error message is as follows:
PIL extraction failed: Please ensure that the read write permissions has been enabled in Plugiator app folder.
This messages occurs when I try and install plug-ins (registered).

[fx1mark]

I have a Plugiator and it works well. The only problem is with the following message.
Does anyone have any ideas?
The error message is as follows:
PIL extraction failed: Please ensure that the read write permissions has been enabled in Plugiator app folder.
This messages occurs when I try and install plug-ins (registered).

Have you tried contacting use audio support?

[SSBUK]

I was actually wondering what the score is with use audio at the moment. I haven't seen a post from Ray for a while and I got an error when I last tried emailing use audio support. I reported a few issues which have never been addressed and the software / plugin updates promised previously have not materialised. In fact, since the VST beta, I don't think there has been any sort of word or update from USE.

[buscemi]

I had no problems communicating with them a couple of weeks ago, and they are definitely testing the VSTi.

[SSBUK]

Must have been a glitch with their mail. I'll try again. Cheers.

[buscemi]

Must have been a glitch with their mail. I'll try again. Cheers.

I was going to try but felt like I'd be a dilrod sending a test email to their support team when I didn't need support If you do have a problem it might be tough to get to them for some of us via phone since it would be an international call but Ray posts here, someone could PM him.

[keyboardman9999]

Yes, I had been still waiting when I decided to take matters into my own hands.
I had to do the following:

1. Reinstall the Plugiator software on a more "friendly" computer (college level computer as myself as an administrator). NO plug 'n' problems with the unit-computer scenario! Yeah!
2. Download all plugins as zip files and open on the desktop screen, and install each (see below) one at a time.
3. (Like I said)unzip each plugin one at a time, and, install using the configuration window and Use Audio's procedure.
4. Drag the new plugin (not loader folder,but, devices (zip file) folder) into the devices folder in the chrome folder (see Windows program files folder).
5. 'Reopen' the Plugiator software to recognize the new plugin.
6. Repeat the procedure for each plugin.

Thanks for your suggestion!

Cheers!

I hope this helps anyone else with the same

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