Hi all,
I'm looking at getting one of the new Kitcore kits from esoundz, but I don't really know drum brands and such very well.
Can someone help me associate these drum kits with either a well-known drummer, song, or style to help me get a feel for what they're best used for? I realize that some have demo tracks on esoundz, but I'd still like a little help in picking one out.
The kits:
Chicago Grtsch
Brady Deep Kit
British Rock Kit
Classic Rock KIt
Danger O Kit
Supraphonic Kit
Tam Star Classic Kit
Yam Jazz Birch Kit
Any help will be appreciated.
--JSP
Which of the new Kitcore kits to get?--UPDATE!
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- KVRian
- 1201 posts since 25 Sep, 2002
JSP
FYI I remember Squids calling out the Danger O Kit as one of his faves if that's of any interest to you (don't have it yet myself but it's on the list!).
Don
FYI I remember Squids calling out the Danger O Kit as one of his faves if that's of any interest to you (don't have it yet myself but it's on the list!).
Don
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Reverend Rhythm Reverend Rhythm https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6041
- KVRAF
- 2859 posts since 21 Feb, 2003 from Woodstock, GA USA
I have Danger O, and I like it. It has a unique sound. The bass drum is loose and rich. The snare, side stick, and toms don't have a tremendous impact (they don't slam), but they have character. I know you could compress and effect it to slam, but I like it's sound. I can use other kits to slam.
BTW, I'd like to hear demos for the classic rock and suprasonic kits.
BTW, I'd like to hear demos for the classic rock and suprasonic kits.
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Well, first of all, a no brainer to get is the FREE Ocean Way Drum kit we're giving away for ALL DrumCore and KitCore users!!!! Just go to www.downloadablesoundz.com and enter the redeem code: PROMO-OWDC1 and it will take you to a page that talks about it and at the bottom of the page you can download it, use it forever etc. ENJOY!
Regarding the other kits...
Here are my comments:
Chicago Grtsch
- This is a really great all around studio kit. It is very natural sounding and versatile.
Brady Deep Kit
- The Brady has a nice pop and punch to it. Plus that's a less common brand to find samples of so a good one for the collection.
British Rock Kit
- This is from the British Rock 3 session with a special mix just for DrumCore/KitCore. It's great for Classic Rock, but for a bit more MEAT.
Classic Rock KIt
- This is very good, a tight sounding kit. It is from the Classic Rock sessions that Mark Hornsby did in Nashville which I like but... Classic Rock is a BIG genre with a lot of different sounds. So this doesn't cover ALL of them. But it gets a nice crack rock sound that's a bit like... hmmm, hard to say which band. It doesn't have any particular iconic sound but more of a general one. To be honest, I'd use it when appropriate so it is nice to have but it isn't my favorite (even though Classic Rock is my favorite style... technically we have a LOT of Classic Rock kits in our collection that are just not called Classic Rock in the title... I gravitate toward those. But there are times I'd go for this one for a tight, higher pitched punchy sound.)
Danger O Kit
- Yes, pretty bad ass this one. Another rare snare in there. This and the Brady are must-haves for something a little different IMO.
Supraphonic Kit
- This is a Ludwig kit with a nice 60's Supraphonic snare. A staple kit to have. The Supraphonic snare may be the most popular vintage snare that was used in the 60's and 70's (and today). Although it can get many sounds, this particular sound is nice. I'll have to make sure ALL of the kits in this have demos though. They're supposed to. But we've been moving things around on the servers for the past few weeks.
Tam Star Classic Kit
- It's a Tama kit. Artists that use Tama include Stewart Copeland, David Grohl and many others. This is a very good natural studio kit to use with a compressor such as the T-Racks Singles deal we have going on www.esoundz.com It sounds good on its own but sounds KILLER through the Opto Compressor or Fairchild emulation in T-Racks 3! They all do but this one particularly shines with it.
Yam Jazz Birch Kit
- This is an unusual Yamaha kit with a low bass drum and high snare. Something different to add to your collection.
A lot of people pick out a bunch of these since they're so darn cheap! $15 each! Can't go wrong with that price! Here's a link for anyone else thinking about it: http://www.esoundz.com/downloads.php?fi ... mit=search
Regarding the other kits...
Here are my comments:
Chicago Grtsch
- This is a really great all around studio kit. It is very natural sounding and versatile.
Brady Deep Kit
- The Brady has a nice pop and punch to it. Plus that's a less common brand to find samples of so a good one for the collection.
British Rock Kit
- This is from the British Rock 3 session with a special mix just for DrumCore/KitCore. It's great for Classic Rock, but for a bit more MEAT.
Classic Rock KIt
- This is very good, a tight sounding kit. It is from the Classic Rock sessions that Mark Hornsby did in Nashville which I like but... Classic Rock is a BIG genre with a lot of different sounds. So this doesn't cover ALL of them. But it gets a nice crack rock sound that's a bit like... hmmm, hard to say which band. It doesn't have any particular iconic sound but more of a general one. To be honest, I'd use it when appropriate so it is nice to have but it isn't my favorite (even though Classic Rock is my favorite style... technically we have a LOT of Classic Rock kits in our collection that are just not called Classic Rock in the title... I gravitate toward those. But there are times I'd go for this one for a tight, higher pitched punchy sound.)
Danger O Kit
- Yes, pretty bad ass this one. Another rare snare in there. This and the Brady are must-haves for something a little different IMO.
Supraphonic Kit
- This is a Ludwig kit with a nice 60's Supraphonic snare. A staple kit to have. The Supraphonic snare may be the most popular vintage snare that was used in the 60's and 70's (and today). Although it can get many sounds, this particular sound is nice. I'll have to make sure ALL of the kits in this have demos though. They're supposed to. But we've been moving things around on the servers for the past few weeks.
Tam Star Classic Kit
- It's a Tama kit. Artists that use Tama include Stewart Copeland, David Grohl and many others. This is a very good natural studio kit to use with a compressor such as the T-Racks Singles deal we have going on www.esoundz.com It sounds good on its own but sounds KILLER through the Opto Compressor or Fairchild emulation in T-Racks 3! They all do but this one particularly shines with it.
Yam Jazz Birch Kit
- This is an unusual Yamaha kit with a low bass drum and high snare. Something different to add to your collection.
A lot of people pick out a bunch of these since they're so darn cheap! $15 each! Can't go wrong with that price! Here's a link for anyone else thinking about it: http://www.esoundz.com/downloads.php?fi ... mit=search
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Reverend Rhythm Reverend Rhythm https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6041
- KVRAF
- 2859 posts since 21 Feb, 2003 from Woodstock, GA USA
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3389 posts since 7 Aug, 2008
Thanks Squids for the thorough reply. That's the sort of info I was looking for.
I've got some ePointz burning a hole in my pocket (and I want to get the free Groove Monkee loops).
--JSP
I've got some ePointz burning a hole in my pocket (and I want to get the free Groove Monkee loops).
--JSP
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- KVRAF
- 6272 posts since 25 Mar, 2004
I couldn't believe my luck when I got the email about the OWD Drumcore kit. I just got the OWD DL version and really like it. But now having an actual OWD kit in Drumcore format is great.
A very nice addition indeed.
Cheers
-B
A very nice addition indeed.
Cheers
-B
Berfab
So many plugins, so little time...
So many plugins, so little time...
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3389 posts since 7 Aug, 2008
UPDATE!!
I've bought and downloaded two kits...so in case Squids and Allen are wondering, YES, the upsells do work.
I picked the Chicago Grtch because it seemed like a good, versatile sound, and I picked the Danger O kit because even as an acoustic kit, it sounded like it would work for electronic music (the kick is really quite nice).
First of all, compared to the Kitcore kits, these kits are huge. I think the largest Kitcore kit in the deluxe package was around 250 MB. These are all 700MB+, which brings me to my second observation....they sound fantastic! You can tell the extra MB went to better samples and more layers because these are some fantastic sounding kits. The quality is really high...I ran thsese through several different compressors, and it easily provided some of the best drums I've got on my system (although, unlike some, I'm not interested in adjusting overhead mics and bleed....I just want good sounding drums.
).
Most of all, the quality for $15 is outstanding. Squids says in order for them to keep making Kitcore kits, we Kitcore and Drumcore users need to show some love for them by picking some up. We'll you'll certainly be glad that you did...it's money well-spent for some great sounding drums.
As for my picks, the Chicago Grtsch kit sounds great. It seems that with a little processing that it will fit nicely with a lot of different genres. The Danger O kit sounds good, but it might take a little time to grow on me because it has a really unique sound. If I had a third to pick, I was going to go with the Tam Star Classic. Maybe I'll pick it up sometime soon.
Oh, and after a quick email, Allen had the MIDI files in my account in no time at all. Nice to have the bonus MIDI grooves.
--JSP
esoundz: SmokeyJ
I've bought and downloaded two kits...so in case Squids and Allen are wondering, YES, the upsells do work.
I picked the Chicago Grtch because it seemed like a good, versatile sound, and I picked the Danger O kit because even as an acoustic kit, it sounded like it would work for electronic music (the kick is really quite nice).
First of all, compared to the Kitcore kits, these kits are huge. I think the largest Kitcore kit in the deluxe package was around 250 MB. These are all 700MB+, which brings me to my second observation....they sound fantastic! You can tell the extra MB went to better samples and more layers because these are some fantastic sounding kits. The quality is really high...I ran thsese through several different compressors, and it easily provided some of the best drums I've got on my system (although, unlike some, I'm not interested in adjusting overhead mics and bleed....I just want good sounding drums.
). Most of all, the quality for $15 is outstanding. Squids says in order for them to keep making Kitcore kits, we Kitcore and Drumcore users need to show some love for them by picking some up. We'll you'll certainly be glad that you did...it's money well-spent for some great sounding drums.
As for my picks, the Chicago Grtsch kit sounds great. It seems that with a little processing that it will fit nicely with a lot of different genres. The Danger O kit sounds good, but it might take a little time to grow on me because it has a really unique sound. If I had a third to pick, I was going to go with the Tam Star Classic. Maybe I'll pick it up sometime soon.
Oh, and after a quick email, Allen had the MIDI files in my account in no time at all. Nice to have the bonus MIDI grooves.
--JSP
esoundz: SmokeyJ
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- KVRist
- 395 posts since 30 Nov, 2002
I bought them all too. I like the Supraphonic and Gretsch kits best.
Not all of mine have both the Direct and Overhead versions. Allen said there would be a fix/update. Is there any more info on that?
Thanks for the Oceanway kit too.
Squids, you are a heck of a salesman.
Not all of mine have both the Direct and Overhead versions. Allen said there would be a fix/update. Is there any more info on that?
Thanks for the Oceanway kit too.
Squids, you are a heck of a salesman.
Dave Burns
Lowell, MA
More equipment than skill...
Lowell, MA
More equipment than skill...
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- KVRAF
- 9521 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
There will be a 1.8 gig Drumcore setup on ComputerMusicMagazine dvd #142, not sure if importing kits will be possible, butReverend Rhythm wrote:I just got the FREE Ocean Way Drum kit! Thanks, Squids!
everything here is crossed in anticipation. That Ocean Way kit is seriously fabulous, but I quickly learned to hate the Kontact Player file-browser, after
using the great one in Cantabile. Hopefully, the player that Sonic Reality sells, will have a decent browser
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- KVRer
- 25 posts since 9 Jun, 2003
This is Strange?
I purchased a couple of Kits for Kitcore: Yamaha Birch, Gretsch and
Supraphonic!
Downloaded size for Gretsch is 800 Mb and uncompressed size is about 1 Gb,
but actually Gretsch Kit is only 300 Mb and there are other 800 Mb
files from original Kitcore; Luis Conte Kits, Hip Hop Kits and Shared
Content etc.
I don't know why I have to download 800 Mb file for 300 Mb Kit??
Who can explain this?
I purchased a couple of Kits for Kitcore: Yamaha Birch, Gretsch and
Supraphonic!
Downloaded size for Gretsch is 800 Mb and uncompressed size is about 1 Gb,
but actually Gretsch Kit is only 300 Mb and there are other 800 Mb
files from original Kitcore; Luis Conte Kits, Hip Hop Kits and Shared
Content etc.
I don't know why I have to download 800 Mb file for 300 Mb Kit??
Who can explain this?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3389 posts since 7 Aug, 2008
Perhaps those who don't have Kitcore Deluxe need those files? I imagine the percussion for these new kits is not part of the new kit...they probably just use the ones from the Conte Kits (as I imagine a typical Gretsch kit does not have a guiro, for instance).gigadreamer wrote:This is Strange?
I purchased a couple of Kits for Kitcore: Yamaha Birch, Gretsch and
Supraphonic!
Downloaded size for Gretsch is 800 Mb and uncompressed size is about 1 Gb,
but actually Gretsch Kit is only 300 Mb and there are other 800 Mb
files from original Kitcore; Luis Conte Kits, Hip Hop Kits and Shared
Content etc.
I don't know why I have to download 800 Mb file for 300 Mb Kit??
Who can explain this?
--JSP
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- KVRian
- 534 posts since 25 Feb, 2005 from East Coast, USA
are any of the kitcore kits the same as in Drum Masters Gold? I am trying to figure out what to buy to use the $25 coupon.
I have so many drumkits, but kitcore is a quick way to get stuff going so maybe I will pick up a couple of the kits.
I have so many drumkits, but kitcore is a quick way to get stuff going so maybe I will pick up a couple of the kits.
too much is never enough. - gmontano on esoundz.com
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Reverend Rhythm Reverend Rhythm https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6041
- KVRAF
- 2859 posts since 21 Feb, 2003 from Woodstock, GA USA
If I understand what you're saying...gmon72 wrote:are any of the kitcore kits the same as in Drum Masters Gold? I am trying to figure out what to buy to use the $25 coupon.
I have so many drumkits, but kitcore is a quick way to get stuff going so maybe I will pick up a couple of the kits.
I believe the item has to cost more than $50 in order to use the $25 coupon.