[geek alert]
I have discovered three scales I couldn't find any info on.
My assumption is that they must have been used before though.
a)
The first one you get when you take a major scale and transpose the sixth one semi-note down (and leave the other intervals as they are).
a)
The next one you get when you take a (conventional) minor scale and turn the base minor into a major (e.g. a-minor: c# instead of c).
c)
And the last one you get when you take a WHWH-scale but use two whole-note intervals at the end (which means the scale has only seven steps instead of eight, as the WHWH has).
Anyone?
[/geek alert]
Does anyone know anything about these scales (name, origin)?
- KVRAF
- 25014 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
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- KVRist
- 179 posts since 1 May, 2007 from Apartment Zero
the first one's harmonic major, the other two are 5th and 6th modes of melodic minor, aeolian major and locrian #2 (the names of the melodic minor modes vary, generally they're just mnemonics for the structure so you may see 5th mode as mixolydian b6, etc)
well that should be enough, you got names now, you can google the rest.
well that should be enough, you got names now, you can google the rest.
Yes. That's a human ear, all right.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 25014 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Great, thanks a lot!

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- KVRAF
- 3278 posts since 22 Jul, 2009
'Harmonic Major' is an interesting name for the first one. That's from the guitar grimoire or somesuch, correct?
Before I'd ever seen it in a book, I called it 'astral minor' or somesuch. To me, it's like the tonic is the (missing) 'a' note. It's like playing around between natural and harmonic minor (g, g#) without ever hitting the tonic (a).
Once I did a short piece with several guitars; played around this scale for a minute or two, then (finally) ended with an actual 'a minor' chord. To me, it's like you never know that the 'a' note is missing until you actually play it.
A-note present and accountef for or not, this is a 'great' scale! (but it doesn't sound 'major' to me)
YMMV
Before I'd ever seen it in a book, I called it 'astral minor' or somesuch. To me, it's like the tonic is the (missing) 'a' note. It's like playing around between natural and harmonic minor (g, g#) without ever hitting the tonic (a).
Once I did a short piece with several guitars; played around this scale for a minute or two, then (finally) ended with an actual 'a minor' chord. To me, it's like you never know that the 'a' note is missing until you actually play it.
A-note present and accountef for or not, this is a 'great' scale! (but it doesn't sound 'major' to me)
YMMV