Do chords slow down dance music(perception wise)?

Chords, scales, harmony, melody, etc.
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breakmixer wrote:
robojam wrote:I think on average chords slow down dance music by 8%. However, they tend to speed jazz up by 4% on average.
I think you're being silly, I was talking percieved tempo by a listener or are you being serious? :roll:
No, not serious at all :D

I just don't think that it makes any difference at all

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robojam wrote:
breakmixer wrote:
robojam wrote:I think on average chords slow down dance music by 8%. However, they tend to speed jazz up by 4% on average.
I think you're being silly, I was talking percieved tempo by a listener or are you being serious? :roll:
No, not serious at all :D

I just don't think that it makes any difference at all
I thought it was a load of Pollocks too :phew:

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breakmixer wrote:
Chopper wrote:well, the credit crunch is even getting to me... One of my studios had to close last week... :scared:
Why don't you get vocalists in the studio, make accapellas and then auction them on Ebay or set up a site(and give the singer a cut), we had a post on this how we cannot get vocals, seems like a good buisness model if you ask me, but upload low quality vox with sound effects in the background so the cannot get ripped during auditioning, even a buy it now, then give exclusive rights to the purchaser to use it! Might see you through the bad times....And we get legal 1 off vocals, I'm sure this is a good idea... :!: :band2:
well, TBH, Internet is one of the main reason that one had to close... Hard too explain in a few lines. Let's say that Piracy DO have consequencies on other businesses than developpers as well, plus you would see the studio I'm talking about, you would realise that we are a bit higher standard than services you'll find on ebay...
Still got my private one, though, and the matering company I work for is doing fine, so I can't complain, really. The room I use there is where I spend most of my time, blogging between sessions :wink: , and I'm happy I didn't leave that job for good when I started my business on the side. But for the 3 persons who were working for me at that company, it's no fun at the moment.... plus I had to sell so much gear when it when down :( that was heartbreaking....
I still make some cash during the weekends from various live sets, but that wouldn't be enough to live safely from. Hell, I don't know many people those days around England who make a living from their own music, and I know quit a few people, as they say...
Diversity helps if you want to make a living in the music industry...
It's not what you use, it's how you use it...

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breakmixer wrote:I have a friend who never puts chords in his music, when I asked why, he says it gives the feeling of slowing down, I don't agree!
You are right to disagree :)
Chopper wrote:I don't know many people those days around England who make a living from their own music, and I know quit a few people, as they say...
Times are tough :(

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Q. Do chords slow down dance music(perception wise)?

A. Only when they're secretly strung across a darkened floor.

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Chopper wrote:...Let's say that Piracy DO have consequencies on other businesses than developpers as well,... plus I had to sell so much gear when it went down :( that was heartbreaking...Diversity helps if you want to make a living in the music industry...
Diversity does help, but I totally understand where you are coming from. I also had to cut down on jobs in my studio 2years ago, and it was sad. Hope everything gets better for you.

I also agree that lots of people don't realise that Piracy do have real life consequences for all the music industry, not only for "tie people".

Sorry for OT, the title is kind of funny, but I won't go there.

Have fun!

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ozmoz2008 wrote:
Chopper wrote:...Let's say that Piracy DO have consequencies on other businesses than developpers as well,... plus I had to sell so much gear when it went down :( that was heartbreaking...Diversity helps if you want to make a living in the music industry...
Diversity does help, but I totally understand where you are coming from. I also had to cut down on jobs in my studio 2years ago, and it was sad. Hope everything gets better for you.

I also agree that lots of people don't realise that Piracy do have real life consequences for all the music industry, not only for "tie people".

Sorry for OT, the title is kind of funny, but I won't go there.

Have fun!
How can people realize that when there is such a huge gap between the big companies like East West floating in money and the poor ones who struggle to make a living?

I suggest first we have to somehow get rid of this gargantuan difference, and inform them (the people) also.

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ZergFood wrote:How can people realize that when there is such a huge gap between the big companies like East West floating in money and the poor ones who struggle to make a living?

I suggest first we have to somehow get rid of this gargantuan difference, and inform them (the people) also.
East West compared to Exxon is a big joke as far as "big" goes. I do agree that there is still a difference between individual artists and companies like EastWest, but it doesn't solve anything when people go for piracy, at the end everyone will suffer. I know for sure that a lot of producer(that are far from poor) take music for granted these days, and this is one of the big reason(not the only one though).

Anyway this should be under another thread I think. Sorry again for OT.

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Yes of course it's a joke because that's how it was meant to be. And it matters. Most people, including a friend of mine (he is not into sound/music mind you) usually says most people with "the big bucks" are greedy etc etc (i'm sure you know the type). I'm sure he's not the only one who thinks that way. so THIS has to be addressed to reduce it by choice (without force that is). Make people aware not everyone has "the big bucks", but also examples of big companies with "big bucks" make this harder since it will become harder for the people to think that not everyone in the software industry is rich etc.

sorry for derailing it more, I had to clarify my point (feel free to say if I got it wrong what you said), promise no more on this subject from me :P

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I use chords all the time in my dance music, but I often use a "trance gate" to break them up rhythmically (BTW, I don't do trance :) ).
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A.M. Gold wrote:I use chords all the time in my dance music, but I often use a "trance gate" to break them up rhythmically (BTW, I don't do trance :) ).
I do breaks, so will I need a breaks gate?

I'll check that effect out, is it one that comes with cubase or a certain freeware one, I always wondered how they do the broken up leads/chords etc?

House Gate
Garage Gate
Garden Gate :hihi:

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Jafo wrote:Hmm, one-chord dance music... can horns, platform shoes, and beach ball-sized Afros be far behind?
If you're intimating that disco lacked interesting chords, I'll have to respectfully disagree. Maybe some pop during the disco era did that, but late 70s disco and pop in general had all kinds of interesting chord stuff going on.

Disco was the last stand of the well-paid session strings and horns, before they were replaced by synths. And man, those session guys could play! (My brother interviewed a lot of disco-era black session players. Interestingly, some of them saw the anti-disco movement as anti-ethnic, anti-black racism.)

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breakmixer wrote:I have a friend who never puts chords in his music, when I asked why, he says it gives the feeling of slowing down...
All music or just his?

As if it matters.
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey

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I know the feeling. I think it's because of the longer period for a repeating waveform. Unless we're talking about octaves, the rest of the chords make the period longer (e.g: 3:2 make the period twice as longer to achieve 3 times the first period (of the tonic)). That doesn't mean it's "slower" but I guess feelings are hard to describe right? :hihi:

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ZergFood wrote:I know the feeling. I think it's because of the longer period for a repeating waveform. Unless we're talking about octaves, the rest of the chords make the period longer (e.g: 3:2 make the period twice as longer to achieve 3 times the first period (of the tonic)). That doesn't mean it's "slower" but I guess feelings are hard to describe right? :hihi:
At least for most men...or so the story goes according to women. :hihi:
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey

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