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ew wrote:
living sounds wrote: I've just got to listen to the music to know that's not the case. Why believe an interview when you've got the expertise to tell yourself?
But- your expertise is exactly what's in question here, no? :?

ew
I think this guy is obviously trolling now. He has been told Prydz is in the box but refuses to believe - he can "hear" thats it OTB because he has the expertise :P

@living sounds, i actually feel a bit sorry for you, youd be better off on gearslutz i think, everyone would agree with you over there.

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themossinator wrote:
I think this guy is obviously trolling now. He has been told Prydz is in the box but refuses to believe - he can "hear" thats it OTB because he has the expertise :P

@living sounds, i actually feel a bit sorry for you, youd be better off on gearslutz i think, everyone would agree with you over there.
Look at the Prydz (Pianoo) thread at gearslutz, a lot of people there think it's all software. Thing is, those are usually the ones who want to believe that, and also haven't got much experience with the gear.

Why do I think it's gotten outboard treatment? Mainly because of the drums. The way the kickdrum punches, especially in conjuction with the rest. The absence of midrange harshness. The way it sticks all together. The clarity and punch despite the relentless limiting. My guess is that it's a mostly software production that got some hardware treatment at the (stem) mastering stage.

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AuthenticDan wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
AuthenticDan wrote: "Pjanoo" sounds good even on youtube.
:uhuhuh:
Oh, but it does!

I don't get what the deal is. People don't have "hifi" systems anymore.
Are you kidding me? I've heard clock radios that have better response than a thousand dollars worth of home stereo thirty years ago.

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living sounds wrote:
themossinator wrote:
I think this guy is obviously trolling now. He has been told Prydz is in the box but refuses to believe - he can "hear" thats it OTB because he has the expertise :P

@living sounds, i actually feel a bit sorry for you, youd be better off on gearslutz i think, everyone would agree with you over there.
Look at the Prydz (Pianoo) thread at gearslutz, a lot of people there think it's all software. Thing is, those are usually the ones who want to believe that, and also haven't got much experience with the gear.

Why do I think it's gotten outboard treatment? Mainly because of the drums. The way the kickdrum punches, especially in conjuction with the rest. The absence of midrange harshness. The way it sticks all together. The clarity and punch despite the relentless limiting. My guess is that it's a mostly software production that got some hardware treatment at the (stem) mastering stage.
Can I ask you a question?

Here are two tracks of mine. One was made a bit of time ago, In the box with almost completely freeware. The other was made a year ago, with aid of my school's studio, with a protools rig, decent console, and mid-high shelf outboard gear (Neve 8803 EQ, SSL Xlogic Dynamics, some Dbx stuff, to name a few), and most of all, better experience. Both are "club/release" quality.

Can you tell which is which?
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2

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The Chase wrote:Can you tell which is which?
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2
Inspiring stuff! Much less boring than the piano loop they keep talking about!

I would say 1 is done earlier, some annoying freqs in there. 2 is more polished but also a bit flatter. Both are from you pre-analogue-modeling-era.

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The Chase wrote: Can I ask you a question?

Here are two tracks of mine. One was made a bit of time ago, In the box with almost completely freeware. The other was made a year ago, with aid of my school's studio, with a protools rig, decent console, and mid-high shelf outboard gear (Neve 8803 EQ, SSL Xlogic Dynamics, some Dbx stuff, to name a few), and most of all, better experience. Both are "club/release" quality.

Can you tell which is which?
1
2
I don't hear obvious hardware/outboard sound in the mixes, though they don't have the midrange harshness buildup you can get quickly with plugins. I like "Monsters" better, because the other one totally lacks punch (although it has a nicer overall quality). But that's a mixing issue primarily.
Bottom line is, with these mixes I cannot say. They might both be ITB for all I know.

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Anyone venture a guess what synth this is:

www.scherer.de/Download/Kosmos.wav

Or at least how the sound comes about.

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living sounds wrote:Anyone venture a guess what synth this is:

www.scherer.de/Download/Kosmos.wav

Or at least how the sound comes about.
Nice. That's the best music I've heard out of you. Ever. I think it's especially funny that you appoint yourself as the mayor of good sounding electronic instruments, but yet have zero examples of anything. If i heard one kick ass analog synth orientated track out of you, I'd rethink my stance toward you being a sad little zealot.

On the other hand, I've heard preset demos from Ew that blow me away.
Zerocrossing Media

4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~

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zerocrossing wrote: Nice. That's the best music I've heard out of you. Ever. I think it's especially funny that you appoint yourself as the mayor of good sounding electronic instruments, but yet have zero examples of anything. If i heard one kick ass analog synth orientated track out of you, I'd rethink my stance toward you being a sad little zealot.

On the other hand, I've heard preset demos from Ew that blow me away.
Good music just distracts from the sound, that's not what a sound demo is about. Also, I keep the good stuff for releases.

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living sounds wrote:
zerocrossing wrote: Nice. That's the best music I've heard out of you. Ever. I think it's especially funny that you appoint yourself as the mayor of good sounding electronic instruments, but yet have zero examples of anything. If i heard one kick ass analog synth orientated track out of you, I'd rethink my stance toward you being a sad little zealot.

On the other hand, I've heard preset demos from Ew that blow me away.
Good music just distracts from the sound, that's not what a sound demo is about. Also, I keep the good stuff for releases.
Oh yeah, obviously the world is on fire with all your releases. Your site doesn't even link to them. Probably to shield us mere mortals from the glorious genius that is you. 'sanks!
Zerocrossing Media

4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~

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living sounds wrote:Good music just distracts from the sound, that's not what a sound demo is about.
Say what? There's nothing more boring than sound demos that sound just like that- sound demos. That's not the way to showcase an instrument or soundbank.
Also, I keep the good stuff for releases.
We're waiting for examples :)

ew
A spectral heretic...

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living sounds wrote:
zerocrossing wrote: Nice. That's the best music I've heard out of you. Ever. I think it's especially funny that you appoint yourself as the mayor of good sounding electronic instruments, but yet have zero examples of anything. If i heard one kick ass analog synth orientated track out of you, I'd rethink my stance toward you being a sad little zealot.

On the other hand, I've heard preset demos from Ew that blow me away.
Good music just distracts from the sound, that's not what a sound demo is about. Also, I keep the good stuff for releases.
wow! had to commemorate that one!

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living sounds wrote:Good music just distracts from the sound
you do realise you said that?
:ud:

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living sounds wrote:
zerocrossing wrote: Nice. That's the best music I've heard out of you. Ever. I think it's especially funny that you appoint yourself as the mayor of good sounding electronic instruments, but yet have zero examples of anything. If i heard one kick ass analog synth orientated track out of you, I'd rethink my stance toward you being a sad little zealot.

On the other hand, I've heard preset demos from Ew that blow me away.
Good music just distracts from the sound, that's not what a sound demo is about. Also, I keep the good stuff for releases.
I'm quite curious of this good stuff you speak of.

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living sounds wrote:Good music just distracts from the sound, that's not what a sound demo is about.
This seems so self-serving I'm wondering if you actually read it before posting. Whatever your goals, I would avoid attempting to earn a living in marketing.
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perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey

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