KVR Audio

Angus_FX · Post by **Angus_FX** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:42 am

sorry, can't give a time frame -- we know there's a lot of demand though, we're working on it!

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:31 pm

Angus_FX wrote:
I'd like to compare them to what already out there as they are claiming it's the best VA Emulation, which is a big claim!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

We've never posted any direct comparative claims regarding DCAM vs. other approaches. We do claim it sounds rather tasty, mind you, and I hope that for most people that claim is valid

DCAM: Synth Squad finally delivers the satisfaction of playing real analogue instruments in software! Advanced modelling technology carefully reconstructs the soul of dusty vintage circuits within your computer, for the unmatched vibe of hardware at a fraction of the cost.

That's what the site says, so I took that as saying 'The best VA Emulation', especially the 'unmatched vibe of hardware' bit.

BTW, I like the sounds in the demos, but would like to hear more and a timed demo would be the best way!

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:30 pm

zerocrossing wrote: I know. The audio demos are for sure not doing anything for me. If there's something there that's beyond what I get from Sawer, Ultra Analog, Sylenth1 and Minimonsta I've yet to hear it.

You'd have a very hard time making the following sound examples from the site with another soft synth:
-Cypher-Tweaks
-Cypher-2_OSC_FM
-Cypher-Fat_TB_Like
-Cypher-Minimal_Night
-Cypher-Reflex_Bass
-CDAM-Song_Me_So_Analog_Boom_Jinx

These to me really show off what's special about DCAM synth squad, but I also come up with lots of simple, but interesting patches in minutes of starting from scratch with any of them. That's the other thing I love about them. The speed of sound creation is unparalleled.

h4nc0 · Post by **h4nc0** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:55 am

played with synth squad for a few days. I love it!
realtime/offline oversampling option should be in every plugin!!

h4nc0 · Post by **h4nc0** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:40 pm

oops. my fault.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:52 am

Ingonator wrote:
Ingonator wrote: UPDATE: 9 Strobe patches including all patches above:
http://rapidshare.com/files/276827746/I ... 7.9.09.zip
I added the 9 Strobe patches to the KVR database:
http://www.kvraudio.com/banks.php?s=lis ... order=date

Sooner or later i'll delete all single patches which i published above. Only the collection will stay.

UPDATE: all single files are deleted and substituted with the 9 patches collection.

I tried to emulate the Lead sound from Pink Floyd's "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" in Strobe. Here is my first try, tips for optimizations are welcome:

1.) http://rapidshare.com/files/279437676/L ... 01__IW.zip

In this patch the aftertouch adds vibrato. The Modwheel increases the cutoff and adds a Saw Sub-Osc.

2.) http://rapidshare.com/files/279453480/L ... 01__IW.zip

This patch is like the one above but it uses both aftertouch and the modwheel for vibrato.

3.) http://rapidshare.com/files/279456586/L ... 02__IW.zip
Slightly modified version of 2.). The amount of the filter envelope cutoff mod is increased.

4.) http://rapidshare.com/files/279469369/L ... 03__IW.zip
A "smooth" version" of patch 2.)

5.) a collection of all 4 patches above:

UPDATE: replaced by a new 6 patches collection. Please look at my following post below.

Just for comparison.
For my feeling the original sound is closest somewhere between 2.) and 4.) so maybe i'll do further optimizations.

PS: Don't let Strobe fool you that it lacks oscillators. Just use the "Stack" function (with "Detune") and/or Sub-Osc's.

Mogular · Post by **Mogular** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:42 pm

Thanks for these.
Something about the naming makes these unopenable in Logic (they are greyed out and not selectable). Removing the first category designation that you have used (eg 'LD') makes them openable.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:45 pm

Mogular wrote:Thanks for these.
Something about the naming makes these unopenable in Logic (they are greyed out and not selectable). Removing the first category designation that you have used (eg 'LD') makes them openable.

Thanks. Maybe it's best to remove something from the end because with the "LD" at the beginning Strobe automatically detects the category.

BTW i discovered that the original sound from 1975 is much "smoother" than in the newer versions so i guess the different patches cover that quite good.

UPDATE: I listened again to the 1994 version ("Pulse" Live concert) of the patch. IMO this version fits best (some changes from the older patches):
http://rapidshare.com/files/279521582/L ... 94__IW.zip

This patch fits also very good to the lead sound at the beginning of "Shine On You Crazy Diamond part 2" from 1975.

This one is a "smoother" version of that patch which fits better to the 1975 original version (Part 1): http://rapidshare.com/files/279521708/L ... ss__IW.zip

All 6 patches:
http://rapidshare.com/files/279522979/I ... atches.zip

The 6 patches sound quite different so i guess it's no problem in having different versions.

Angus_FX · Post by **Angus_FX** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:00 pm

@ Ingo - thanks for sharing! You might want to repost these in the patch sharing thread over at our Synth Squad forum too, so they don't get lost in the noise...

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:56 pm

Angus_FX wrote:@ Ingo - thanks for sharing! You might want to repost these in the patch sharing thread over at our Synth Squad forum too, so they don't get lost in the noise...

Hello Angus, thanks for your answer. I just made a new thread:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 81#3759881

I'll post future updates at that thread.

I also added the patches to the KVR database:
http://www.kvraudio.com/banks.php?s=list&what=3172

I will also add them to the FXpansion user database as soon as possible.

UPDATE:
I added the files to the FXpansion Synth Squad forum. I included a link for the KVR thread.

Rory_FX · Post by **Rory_FX** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:21 pm

We have another top tip online:

Quick Tip 05 - Cypher's Beat Detune pt.2

For anyone just catching up on all the videos, here's an exhaustive list of what we have so far:

Quick Tips:

Quick Tip 04 - Cypher's Beat Detune

Quick Tip 03 - Velocity Glide:

Quick Tip 02 - Cypher Goes Lo-Fi

Quick Tip 01 - Strobe's Hidden 'Extra' Oscillator

Other Videos:

An Introduction to Strobe:

An Introduction to Amber:

An Introduction to Cypher:

An Introduction to Fusor:

Synth Squad Common Features:

and the original marketing video:

Megakazbek · Post by **Megakazbek** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:49 pm

One of my friends bought SynthSquad and I went to him to test this thing out.
I didn't spend an awful lot of time with it, but generally I was very disappointed. I associate analog with beautiful, smooth and at the same time, powerful sounds (for example: 1, 2, 3). SynthSquad sounds nothing like it. It's very raw and harsh, especially in the higher registers, and there is no "beauty" in its sound that I love so much in analog synths. It's possible to do okay basses and leads, but for pads SS is pretty much unusable because of that unpleasant high register harshness. Generally, all those things that I love about analog synth character are NOT PRESENT in SynthSquad.
Also, as with all the other modern synths, presets totally suck. There are maybe two or three normal bread'n'butter sounds for each synth, and the rest is weird distorted detuned noisy and absolutely unpleasant chaos, suitable only to torture enemies with it. And no classic analog sounds at all!
Now I'm very glad I didn't buy this thing based solely on hype around it. Everyone else, be warned: wait for a demo first, only then decide whether to buy it or not. SS might be not what you're expecting at all.

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:56 pm

I think you might be thinking of virtual analog and not actual analog.

Megakazbek · Post by **Megakazbek** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:17 pm

djanthonyw wrote:I think you might be thinking of virtual analog and not actual analog.

I don't understand what you mean.
I have enough experience with actual analog. I owned Prophet 08 and currently own Matrix-1000, and tried a lot of various analog synths in different studios etc. The friend who bought Synth Squad owns original Prophet V and Moog Voyager, and they're night and day compared to SS. When I say analog, I mean analog.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:03 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:
zerocrossing wrote: I know. The audio demos are for sure not doing anything for me. If there's something there that's beyond what I get from Sawer, Ultra Analog, Sylenth1 and Minimonsta I've yet to hear it.
You'd have a very hard time making the following sound examples from the site with another soft synth:
-Cypher-Tweaks
-Cypher-2_OSC_FM
-Cypher-Fat_TB_Like
-Cypher-Minimal_Night
-Cypher-Reflex_Bass
-CDAM-Song_Me_So_Analog_Boom_Jinx

These to me really show off what's special about DCAM synth squad, but I also come up with lots of simple, but interesting patches in minutes of starting from scratch with any of them. That's the other thing I love about them. The speed of sound creation is unparalleled.

These sound good but "very hard" to reproduce? Maybe... but I'm still having a really hard time buying the "we're working on a demo." I can't even imagine releasing software with no demo. Urs Heckman somehow manages to release open betas that totally show off his software. We had months of Helix to play with before the release... Synth Squad? Just mountains of hyperbole and a handful of zealots chanting it's charms. Few of the demo sounds are exciting to me at all, but I thought the same thing about Largo until I gave it a test drive and ended up loving it so... we'll see.

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