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ZonderP · Post by **ZonderP** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:08 am

bfloyd6969 wrote:
DHR53 wrote:Dbl. click drum clips to midi editor... coming soon!
This will be nice.

This would be nice.
Note bfloyd6969, that this is only a wish expressed by DHR53, it't not really in the coming next...

bfloyd6969 · Post by **bfloyd6969** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:03 am

ZonderP wrote:
bfloyd6969 wrote:
DHR53 wrote:Dbl. click drum clips to midi editor... coming soon!
This will be nice.
This would be nice.
Note bfloyd6969, that this is only a wish expressed by DHR53, it't not really in the coming next...

Yeah, I seen that after going to the XT web site and not seeing it listed there. I thought perhaps they snuck it in there with the next "Coming Next".

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:03 pm

Would be a really nice feature though. When I first saw it I went directly to the EnergyXT site to check if it was really there.

Regards
Caleb

bfloyd6969 · Post by **bfloyd6969** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:19 pm

Caleb wrote:Would be a really nice feature though. When I first saw it I went directly to the EnergyXT site to check if it was really there.

Regards
Caleb

It's been talked about before as a FR but don't know if it will take place or not...

DHR53 · Post by **DHR53** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:33 pm

That was my reverse attempt at actually getting the feature implemented... Ha!

DWb · Post by **DWb** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:06 pm

What do you mean by this, exactly? Sounds interesting...

DHR53 · Post by **DHR53** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:06 pm

Very simple... when you Dbl. click a drum clip, it does the same as a midi clip: opens to the midi editor! So you don't have to:

- resize the arrange window endlessly to program drum beats

- ditto to make variations of existing drum beats and velocity and grid variations

- try and program beats from the same view you use to view an entire song, for instance. DUH!

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DHR53 · Post by **DHR53** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:11 pm

I'm assuming their reluctance to implement this (I'm not going to call this a feature since every other DAW does this) indicates that they assume the majority of their users make songs that go thump, thump, thump, thump.

kejkz · Post by **kejkz** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:11 pm

I would rather make drum pads more configurable and usable with envelopes and dedicated outputs, but this is good proposal.

DWb · Post by **DWb** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:20 pm

kejkz wrote:I would rather make drum pads more configurable and usable with envelopes and dedicated outputs, but this is good proposal.

Yes, both would be awesome.

I really love the XT2 drum sequencer - having a track per drum and the parameters sat next to the drums is just so much more natural than either doing everything in a midi track or faffing around with audio. It's probably the drum track more than anything else that keeps me with XT2.

But having said that, I would love to see multiple outs, volume envelopes (even just hold/delay), and midi output. (And if I'm really going off on one, a few more targets for the modulation bars: pitch, envelope parameters, midi CC etc).

brewt · Post by **brewt** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:33 am

Oh, man. 228 perfectly good [oh Please]'s gone to waste - still no timesig/tempo track.

Was I just a couple short of making it happen? Should I have made it an even 230?

-bjc

DHR53 · Post by **DHR53** » Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:16 pm

I'm wondering what the minimum features would be... to make a simple DAW that could be used to make electronic music? Here's my SHORT list...

1. Arrange window where midi and audio clips can be positioned to form a "song"

2. Parameter automation to control midi or audio over time i.e. volume, pan, sends etc.

3. VST/AU implementation of course

4. Drum track or drum editor preferrably with it's own edit window NOT tied to the arrange window

5. Mixer with FX sends

Seems to me you could do a lot with just these features... When I look at some of the menus in Reaper, or say Logic, it makes me wonder?

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robenestobenz · Post by **robenestobenz** » Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:54 pm

DHR53 wrote:I'm wondering what the minimum features would be... to make a simple DAW that could be used to make electronic music? Here's my SHORT list...

1. Arrange window where midi and audio clips can be positioned to form a "song"

2. Parameter automation to control midi or audio over time i.e. volume, pan, sends etc.

3. VST/AU implementation of course

4. Drum track or drum editor preferrably with it's own edit window NOT tied to the arrange window

5. Mixer with FX sends

Seems to me you could do a lot with just these features... When I look at some of the menus in Reaper, or say Logic, it makes me wonder?

Nothing wrong with extra power. As long as the basics are still fast to use (in my experience they're not, in many of the more comprehensive hosts, but that is actually a separate issue) the availability of advanced functions and features can only be a good thing.

The basic features aren't that basic either. Take 1. for example. There are many workflow aspects to an arrange window; ghosting/cloning, duplicate behaviour, merging, splitting, inline editing. Just having a window in which to position clips is not nearly enough - and it's in the implementation of these kinds of things that XT shines, not in the lack of other things.