chipsounds from plogue

[ZombyWoof]

Hey you are the first known user of both chipsounds and GPO4.
When you mean one UI in standalone, im not exactly sure what you mean?

You can mix and match GPO4 and chipsounds in chipsounds or GPO4, although
the specific controls of each are better served in their own uis.

Well, there's at least two of us here. I'm a long-time user of Bidule as well. I like being able to have both Aria soundsets available under the same mixer, but as you said, each UI is tailored for the repective soundset.

Are there plans for the other Garritan libraries uner Aria?

[davidv@plogue]

Are there plans for the other Garritan libraries uner Aria?

Yes, all new Garritan Libraries, including ports of pre-existing ones with new addons are been done in ARIA, more details on the northernsounds.com forums.

Theres LOADS of cool stuff in the pipelines for ARIA

Cheers

[topaz]

Can I please ask again what the license transfer policy is in plogue products?

[parma]

Can I please ask again what the license transfer policy is in plogue products?

from the license agreement:

You are absolutely forbidden to duplicate, copy, distribute, transfer, upload or download, trade, loan, reissue or resell this product or any of the contents in any way to anyone.

so no license transfers

[topaz]

That doesn't always mean a product is nfr, it can also mean it cannot be put on a cd and resold.

Can I please ask again what the license transfer policy is in plogue products?

from the license agreement:

You are absolutely forbidden to duplicate, copy, distribute, transfer, upload or download, trade, loan, reissue or resell this product or any of the contents in any way to anyone.

so no license transfers

[pikadilly]

I am not a chiptune aficionado. I really love this vsti after trying a few short tracks with chipsounds.

[davidv@plogue]

Hi

The license card contains your name and address, phone number, etc, and its not the kind of stuff that you want to give to other people (in fact thats the point of this protection).

So License transfers would need to pass through us (read: we need to take the time, and deal with both parties involved, generate a key for the new user, and invalidate the previous key in ARIA updates)... time, and time=money

Its a complex process, which has to be done manually. Since we dont use a dongle which is tied to a system, and an automatic third party solution to exchange license, we have to think of some minimal fee to do so, so far no requests have been made.

We are not there to screw off people, but if we allow license transfer for free, since we cant prove the old user has uninstalled the version of chipsounds that was still valid, there no additional sale that gets our way.

We dont do challenge response, no intrusive dongle or "service" software of any kind. instead with both Bidule and chipsounds, you can install the app on ANY NUMBER of your own systems, wipe them clean, ghost the machine, reinstall, and always use the same key. There are advantage and disadvantages to any form of CP. We are taking huge risks.

We think we are being reasonable, considering all the aspects of the trade.
There is no such thing as being for or against license transfers, i think it TOTALLY depends on the type of copy protection involved.

[topaz]

Hi Dave

It is a question people will ask, not because they want to sell anytime but to know they can if they wish to in the future..

There are lots of people that will not buy NFR software so this is just a standard question.

[davidv@plogue]

Hi Dave

It is a question people will ask, not because they want to sell anytime but to know they can if they wish to in the future..

There are lots of people that will not buy NFR software so this is just a standard question.

Oh im not pissed off, i just want to explain our opinion on the matter, which is not black and white. the difficulty here is to be sure that for one sale, one copy is licensed in the world. using a dongle/challenge response thats easy, but intrusive.

Our method is not intrusive at all, but does offer us that form of protection.

When i bought my Juno 106 from a buddy, i had it and he didnt anymore.

[davidv@plogue]

Hi I've re-edited my post with more precision.
I think its the first time that I intelligently wrote down the company policy on license transfers, thanks for allowing the opportunity to refine it...

[topaz]

So you would charge a small fee to transfer a license.

How much?

Hi I've re-edited my post with more precision.
I think its the first time that I intelligently wrote down the company policy on license transfers, thanks for allowing the opportunity to refine it...

[Debby747]

And while we're at it, I want to say a special "Thank You"
for ARIA and your unique protection scheme!

I did not know the ARIA-engine was capable of turning a sampler into a synthesizer.
I bought Chipsounds in a heartbeat and love it!

(And by the way, I also look forward to combining GPO4 with SID. What a nice side-effect...)

All the best,
D.

[davidv@plogue]

Hi Debby747,

Thanks! I dont publicize it (because it would send the wrong message), but chipsounds is also a 8 slot SFZ 2.x player, with streaming.

The synthesis stuff is made by extending SFZ to run any type of oscillators instead of samples. So you get the huge power and flexibility of SFZ 2.0 plus any types of custom oscillator you fancy to code.

All the chips in chipsounds are text based SFZ files (including research comments), we dont hide much, as i said in our forums, we are a weird type of company that's half way between open source, and a fully closed spec gang. you can customize pretty much everything with ARIA products.

[Xenos]

Count me in among those that really like Chipsounds' unique protection scheme....no worry about losing dongles, no trouble with Challenge/Responce stuff, and not even having to spend the time typing in a serial number. I love it . Just plop your card in there and BAM!, it's Game On.

[davidv@plogue]

Count me in among those that really like Chipsounds' unique protection scheme....no worry about losing dongles, no trouble with Challenge/Responce stuff, and not even having to spend the time typing in a serial number. I love it . Just plop your card in there and BAM!, it's Game On.

thanks but you would be surprised that for some ARIA users drag and dropping seemed out of this world, and would have preferred a 25 character serial number.

We had to do
to explain it. I hope that this sort of stuff becomes more the norm, so that the extra teaching is not necessary