Does the Scale depend on the Tempo??

[Cyoon]

Hey,

i wonder if a scale depends on a tempo...

is that right?

or do i have to use the F scale when i produce in 145bpm??

please light me on this..

i consider this formular..wich works pretty good.. : ((145 bpm/60)x9)x2=43,5 hz wich is an F...

and it works very good for a kick..but does it even force the scale to be in F or F minor or F sharp..stuff like that..

thanks

[Rottweiler]

I dont think so.

[Ogg Vorbis]

Hey,

i wonder if a scale depends on a tempo...

is that right?

or do i have to use the F scale when i produce in 145bpm??

please light me on this..

i consider this formular..wich works pretty good.. : ((145 bpm/60)x9)x2=43,5 hz wich is an F...

and it works very good for a kick..but does it even force the scale to be in F or F minor or F sharp..stuff like that..

thanks

Wow, so the formula relates metric frequency (BPM) to pitch frequency (Hz)? That's interesting, but entirely unnecessary since the relationship would not register even unconsciously in human beings from the planet earth.

Perhaps much more evolved species might complain about the "dissonance" between the metric cycles and the pitch frequency but no one I personally know would perceive that.

Or perhaps if you are getting into ultra-ultra Milton Babbit serialism and everything has to be mathmatically related then, yeah...um...you should consider those parameters.

But in general, no, you don't have to consider relationships between pitch and tempo.

It creates interesting questions though...such as if you modulated to a new key center, you'd have to slow down or speed up the tempo!

[robogone]

No. You can use any scale with any tempo.

[bugs]

There is no dependent relationship whatsoever between scale ("key", I think is what you mean) and tempo.

[Cyoon]

very nice!

thanks for the information..

maybe this pitch / temp relation is a little outta space hehe..

people who use this cosmic octave stuff see a streight relationship between tempo and pitch(finetuning)

but for me i think that goes a little too far as well..

[Gamma-UT]

No it doesn't. But I'm curious as to why you thought it might. What genre are you producing? I ask because some dance genres use very low-frequency kicks or kicks tuned to the main bass note to get more bass presence into them, so what you might be picking up is the fact that sub-bass dominated genres like dubstep use notes that lie around a G, because G1 has a fundamental of about 50Hz (which is pretty darn low). F1 can't be audible to many people but I guess you can get a double helping thanks to F2 at 87Hz or so.

Or did you warp a kick from 120 to 145bpm, which then altered the kick frequency?

[Cyoon]

Im into dance music production yes..

Called Fullon as a subgenre of psytrance..and just realized all this scale thing to be very nice to use , and i found this page..

http://www.trancetutorial.com/Scales%20Page%202.htm

so i wondered if i could use any of the scales with any tempo..since most Fullontracks that are produced at 145bpm are written in an F scale..

[Ogg Vorbis]

Hey,

i wonder if a scale depends on a tempo...

is that right?

or do i have to use the F scale when i produce in 145bpm??

please light me on this..

i consider this formular..wich works pretty good.. : ((145 bpm/60)x9)x2=43,5 hz wich is an F...

and it works very good for a kick..but does it even force the scale to be in F or F minor or F sharp..stuff like that..

thanks

Sometimes late at night when I am trying to sleep and when the wind isn't blowing, I can hear this note:

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/b ... 30909.html

[Gamma-UT]

Im into dance music production yes..

Called Fullon as a subgenre of psytrance..and just realized all this scale thing to be very nice to use , and i found this page..

http://www.trancetutorial.com/Scales%20Page%202.htm

so i wondered if i could use any of the scales with any tempo..since most Fullontracks that are produced at 145bpm are written in an F scale..

Yes, any tempo, any scale. The F is just for maximum bass impact, so as you move away from it you get more variety but you might find yourself asking "where did the bass go?". I'm surprised they use one so low but it does sort of make sense for psytrance.

Anyone who's seen Jah Wobble live will know the impact of very low basslines - when your sternum starts to move by itself, you know Wobble's in the house.

[Cyoon]

ok, thanks for your help!

[flowdesigner]

Hey,

i wonder if a scale depends on a tempo...

is that right?


thanks

For someone, maybe. Yngwie Malmsteen tend to play blues scale when he is slowing down, and his harmonic minor when he is back in his normal tempo

[Nystul]

Your frequency choice for a "kick" has more to do with the capabilities of typical speakers and also what listeners perceive as heavy bass. I don't really see any connection to the tempo of the song. A lot of dance music will have heavy kick and tempos around 140, but that's just the nature of the music and not a connection between the two things.

Ironically it has always seemed to me that people who *actually want to dance* prefer a lot slower tempo than what so called dance music caters to. Like in the Dr. Dre commercial for Dr. Pepper, it is so true.