How does REAPER do it?

[dawmaster]

this thread is a trainwreck

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wow!!!this is completely retarded.this thread has it all!!people who actually use REAPER?For real?and then a bunch of religous zealotry on top of that!!This is better than a soap opera!! for the reaper fan boys out there...not every daw has the same audio processing power as they claim.If you would simply AB the raw track recordings in reaper with any other daw worth its salt you would see why us big boys wouldnt touch reaper or traktion with a ten foot pole!!kia makes a so called luxury car with all of the amenities of lexus or a mercedes right!!?would rather have a lexus or a kia!!personally i would go with a honda same quality as a lexus yet half its price with proven longevity and resale value,gas milage etc.end of metaphor ..hopefully you get the point...if not here it is spelled out!

reaper equals kia cheap korean made crap
protools equals lexus very nice with all the expensive repairs and maintenance that comes with
studio one or cubase 5 equals honda same quality if not better than lexus more horsepower than both,and half the cost of a proprietary protools set up!!

anyways let the war begin!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'd like to hear what makes you a "big boy", I'm thinking it's not your maturity so are you saying you're a big time producer? So I'm calling you on it, if you're going to talk big prove it. I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong, but I can't imagine why the big boys would stoop as low as to talk to the likes of us who have no clue.

BTW I have never even tried reaper myself, but I'm not sure what benefit there would be for me if I was to bash it and other things as you have done. Really why? Can't you find a reasonable and respectful way to make your point, respectfulness is quite rewarding in it's own right.

Of course, you remember yesterday when he said that he OWNS and has mastered every single host out there? And when he said that he has ALL the top of the line instruments and effects. And when he said that those who were criticizing Studio One were only mad because they couldn't afford these top-shelf instruments that would make Studio One better.

Brent

ok guys when you are done finger banging your egos i think you would agree i made a valid point..that not all code is equal as per sound processing.granted its all ones and zero's but there is alot behihnd the coding in audio processing and there are newer albeit more cpu intensive processes' that software like protools, cubase 5 and yes even studio one pro are now utilizing within the realm of 64 bit data calculation.if you are like me you might remember the first daws with their 16 bit awesomeness...look how far we have come.look lets not get personal. i know i embellish for dramatic effect but cmon...it makes for good reading along with our technical jargon!!

I'm not getting personal (though I do detest words like retarded and gay being used as slurs and in a negative sense) I just think it's best to keep it real. You know what happens when you embellish? People expect more, average becomes lousy, good becomes average and great becomes good (or worse), you are far more likely to underwhelm than overwhelm.

So that's an impressive list of gear you have in your sig, am I out of line to ask to hear some of what you have recorded? I'm not impressed by stats and specs, they mean nothing when you factor in the human element. TBH I still work in 16 bit now, but I also remember when the music world was rocked (pun intended) by the announcement of the first porta studio...I was in the service then. If I can't get the job done with what I have now it's my fault, not the fault of my gear

FWIW I use samp pro, yesterday you balked at pluggins that come with software, while I have plenty invested in 3rd party pluggins both vsti and vst (a lot of voxengo, antares, native instruments, yellow tools, dfhs, gforce retro pack to name a few) I really like the fx suite in samp and want for no more fx right now. BTW I also have S1 pro and I like it, but it's no where near ready to replace samplitude for me

[PFRfan]

As a Pentecostal Bible-thumping pastor, I'd like to say the Reaper is sweet for the money. I can't get away from T3, though. The interface is just dead-on perfect. Except for the missing wiggly arrows from T2.

PS - learn how to start a new thread, fellas. In a different room. On a different board.

[dawmaster]

to be completely honest i was die hard anolog up until 2002.i had sworn that i would never go digital.but here i am obsessed by the ever progressing sound fidelity...and make no mistake it is still all about my ear.that is why i incorporate the best of analog and digital into my work. my music would be nothing to me without the analog gear i use(which cost me my entire life savings by the way at 3 seperate times!!)but as such it is my quest to make everything i come across and everything that is presented to me the highest quality in sound fidelity!and yeah when i get a chance i will port over some of my work so you can check it out.would you rather here a commercial jingle or my own artistic blunderings,i cannot for obvious reasons share the work of recording artists i work with. for one that would kill my anonymity and secondly i would not want their names attached to my arrogant blather on this site!

[Pipelineaudio]

{some stuff that had nothing to do with the evidence he was asked to present]

So that's no evidence for DAW's sounding different then?

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well it seems to me it would be inappropriate for you to post commercial jingles you have done, but you could link to the adds if possible.

[dawmaster]

{some stuff that had nothing to do with the evidence he was asked to present]

So that's no evidence for DAW's sounding different then?

listen with your own ear or listen to well respected engineers on the subject

[Pipelineaudio]

listen with your own ear or listen to well respected engineers on the subject

So, no evidence, just a video to watch while I attempt to digest your Argument from Authority?

This is a VERY simple thing to test. You can do this test in minutes
You can present actual evidence as I have or you can keep spinning yarns about the teapot orbiting Jupiter

[Pipelineaudio]

Oh crap!!!!!!!!! Did you even watch that video before you posted it as an argument?

You realize reaper has been 64 bit from the start right?

ooops and also nulls with sonar

So, let's have some evidence

[dawmaster]

listen with your own ear or listen to well respected engineers on the subject

So, no evidence, just a video to watch while I attempt to digest your Argument from Authority?

This is a VERY simple thing to test. You can do this test in minutes
You can present actual evidence as I have or you can keep spinning yarns about the teapot orbiting Jupiter

it seems that no evidence i would procure for you would change your view..that is all well and good, we have the right to our opinions but this debate has been settled many times over..if it hadnt we would all still be using 16 bit daws there is a reason for technical progress especially when mastering audio.do you remember atari? the bitrate from atari to our current games has exponentially increased as well as different coding methods ie. game engines provide better experiences for the gamer.i appreciate your steadfastness on the subject but as darwin would say ..evolve, adapt..shit or get off the pot!

[dawmaster]

not all 64 bit daws are equal..yes i knew that reaper has "64 bit compatability"

[djanthonyw]

How about we post a song, and then you tell us what program it was mixed in?

[koolkeys]

ok guys when you are done finger banging your egos

OUR EGOS? You mean, WE are the ones with egos, Mr. "I have every host and all the great plug-ins because I can afford them. You are just mad that you can't, blah blah blah"?

I think you need a reality check.

i think you would agree i made a valid point..that not all code is equal as per sound processing.

Ummmm, no we don't agree. Why? Because proof has been provided for our view. You have provided zero.

granted its all ones and zero's but there is alot behihnd the coding in audio processing and there are newer albeit more cpu intensive processes' that software like protools, cubase 5 and yes even studio one pro are now utilizing within the realm of 64 bit data calculation.if you are like me you might remember the first daws with their 16 bit awesomeness...look how far we have come.look lets not get personal. i know i embellish for dramatic effect but cmon...it makes for good reading along with our technical jargon!!

I fail to see any real point in this entire quote.

Brent

[Pipelineaudio]

it seems that no evidence i would procure for you would change your view

Well, let's see you present ANY, and then you can try to make that claim.

Let's not put the cart before the horse

..that is all well and good, we have the right to our opinions but this debate has been settled many times over.

You are right, it has been settled many times over. Never in your favor however.

.if it hadnt we would all still be using 16 bit daws there is a reason for technical progress especially when mastering audio.

Nope. There's a very good reason we use high bit rates when we can. Try dividing 29 by 4, and limit your answer to 1 digit. You just threw away a quarter of a one. With three digits you can get it exact.

[koolkeys]

it seems that no evidence i would procure for you would change your view..

Well, how are we to know? You haven't provided any proof.

that is all well and good, we have the right to our opinions but this debate has been settled many times over..

It has? Where? So my 64 bit host and your 64 bit host will sound different, you say? Waiting for that proof.

if it hadnt we would all still be using 16 bit daws there is a reason for technical progress especially when mastering audio.do you remember atari? the bitrate from atari to our current games has exponentially increased as well as different coding methods ie. game engines provide better experiences for the gamer.i appreciate your steadfastness on the subject but as darwin would say ..evolve, adapt..shit or get off the pot!

I honestly don't think you have any idea what you are talking about. I don't think you even know the difference between 64 bit code and 64 bit mixing engine.

Still waiting on that proof.

Brent