Spectrasonics Trilian...(Omnisphere v.1.1 now out with native x64 support!)
- KVRAF
- 7795 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
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- KVRist
- 123 posts since 13 Oct, 2007
I just got mines 2 hours ago. I am playing with it now. I am happpppppppyyyyyyy.It was only 2 in chicago.
I got mines for a great price also.
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I got mines for a great price also.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
I hadn't even watched the synth bass video. Holy low-end batman!
I sure hope my system handles T without big glitches
Shipped today, next wed is when it should get here (says 2-5 days........it'll be 5 business days
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I sure hope my system handles T without big glitches
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 20 Aug, 2008 from Chicago
I read this thread with interest, and I know it got a little nasty, but I'm reviving it to share a little demo I just made. I don't think anyone brought up hip-hop in this whole thread. Seems to me that ever since A Tribe Called Quest's "The Low End Theory" featuring Ron Carter that acoustic bass plays an important role in hip-hop. So I made this beat with Trilian, specifically featuring some round robin notes. As a bonus, I plugged in Logic's built-in Upright Jazz Bass instrument at the end for comparison. (Though I think you'll agree there is no comparison)
http://tinyurl.com/yjl3mlt
Enjoy.
http://tinyurl.com/yjl3mlt
Enjoy.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Cool. And yes the trilian is much more expressive.tapler wrote:I read this thread with interest, and I know it got a little nasty, but I'm reviving it to share a little demo I just made. I don't think anyone brought up hip-hop in this whole thread. Seems to me that ever since A Tribe Called Quest's "The Low End Theory" featuring Ron Carter that acoustic bass plays an important role in hip-hop. So I made this beat with Trilian, specifically featuring some round robin notes. As a bonus, I plugged in Logic's built-in Upright Jazz Bass instrument at the end for comparison. (Though I think you'll agree there is no comparison)
http://tinyurl.com/yjl3mlt
Enjoy.
So what system do you use? Still trying to get more specs and usage info (even though I ordered it
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 20 Aug, 2008 from Chicago
Thanks. I have a pretty beefy system--Mac Pro 8-core, 16 gigs of RAM. I use Logic, though, so Trilian can't access all that RAM, of course. A couple of the patches are really huge, one of them is over two gigs (!) and that could shut down a session real quick, but there are plenty of options there to make great sounds. This session had an instance of Omnisphere (that synth bass that comes in to double) an Ultrabeat, a M-Tron Pro, and of course the EXS24.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Eeek, my meager system is nothing compared to that.
But I'm not looking to load too big a monster. Just looking to get a good straight ahead acoustic sound. Yeah I'm worried, but then again, acoustic isn't my first choice in allot of stuff.
But I'm not looking to load too big a monster. Just looking to get a good straight ahead acoustic sound. Yeah I'm worried, but then again, acoustic isn't my first choice in allot of stuff.
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- KVRist
- 378 posts since 12 Jan, 2005
That was an ill little track tapler and that bass sounds alive
. Thanks for sharin. Ive found that Omnisphere's sounds were inspiring enough to encourage me to play the keys more expressively. Maybe these Trilian sounds will do the same...
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
So in all seriousness, the "new" acoustic is a real ram hog that has been made clear. But what about the electric basses or the synth basses? Are they substantially lower or not much lower at all???
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- KVRian
- 1096 posts since 31 Aug, 2001 from Los Angeles, California
Sounds like you may have got the wrong impression of Trilian....here's some important things to note:hibidy wrote:So in all seriousness, the "new" acoustic is a real ram hog that has been made clear. But what about the electric basses or the synth basses? Are they substantially lower or not much lower at all???
• Trilian has a lot of options for Memory Management.
In fact, you can very easily choose how much you wish to load of any sound. You can have it load fewer round-robins or none at all, less dynamics, less dense keymapping. There's also a handy Lite Version button that is already setup for loading a greatly reduced version of any sound in the library. You can even limit Trilian to loading just the samples that you need in the key of your song or specific notes in the scale that you are using. It's really flexible and setup for working within tighter memory systems.
As I said earlier in the thread...it's better to start big and then cut it down to what you need, than to try to go the other way....which is not possible of course.
• You can also load "True Staccato" versions of each Acoustic and Electric Bass that has a lot of articulations in a single part, which is the most efficient way to work.
• Trilian also has many complete Electric and Acoustic Bass sounds that have a very small memory footprint. Some are only a few megabytes and sound really good too.
• The new Synth Basses are very reasonably sized....significantly smaller than most of the patches in Omnisphere for example.
Trilian also typically uses much less CPU than Omnisphere, since much less polyphony is needed for Bass.
Hope that's useful info!
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
It is totally helpful info!spectrum wrote:Sounds like you may have got the wrong impression of Trilian....here's some important things to note:hibidy wrote:So in all seriousness, the "new" acoustic is a real ram hog that has been made clear. But what about the electric basses or the synth basses? Are they substantially lower or not much lower at all???
• Trilian has a lot of options for Memory Management.
In fact, you can very easily choose how much you wish to load of any sound. You can have it load fewer round-robins or none at all, less dynamics, less dense keymapping. There's also a handy Lite Version button that is already setup for loading a greatly reduced version of any sound in the library. You can even limit Trilian to loading just the samples that you need in the key of your song or specific notes in the scale that you are using. It's really flexible and setup for working within tighter memory systems.
As I said earlier in the thread...it's better to start big and then cut it down to what you need, than to try to go the other way....which is not possible of course.
• You can also load "True Staccato" versions of each Acoustic and Electric Bass that has a lot of articulations in a single part, which is the most efficient way to work.
• Trilian also has many complete Electric and Acoustic Bass sounds that have a very small memory footprint. Some are only a few megabytes and sound really good too.
• The new Synth Basses are very reasonably sized....significantly smaller than most of the patches in Omnisphere for example.
Trilian also typically uses much less CPU than Omnisphere, since much less polyphony is needed for Bass.
Hope that's useful info!
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- KVRist
- 123 posts since 13 Oct, 2007
I can say man o man does trilian tax my memory. I have a mac pro with 6gb of memory and it taxes my cpu alot. I have no problem with omnisphere and using 10 or so tracks with it,but not with trilian. No where near.
I was like WTF TRILIAN. But the sounds are very nice and I am having fun with it.
I was like WTF TRILIAN. But the sounds are very nice and I am having fun with it.
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- KVRAF
- 1890 posts since 23 Dec, 2003
I am on a macpro 2.8 ghz and CPU wise Trilian is playing very nicely. Never got even close to hitting the ceiling with the CPU demand.
Some of the big patches and multis do need a lot of RAM but that comes quite naturally and as Eric said above there are lots of ways to slim down the Ram footprint of any of the sounds.
For my demos where i use an absurd amount of basses (even the chords, leads and percussion is coming from Trillian in most cases) i need to utilize VSL Ensemble pro to access more RAM than Logic allows for but in regular tunes where i have one bass i can manage with Logics onboard RAM most of the time.
And in case RAM is really running low-the classic Trilogy and Bass Legends patches sound totally fab, even without round robin.
Some of the big patches and multis do need a lot of RAM but that comes quite naturally and as Eric said above there are lots of ways to slim down the Ram footprint of any of the sounds.
For my demos where i use an absurd amount of basses (even the chords, leads and percussion is coming from Trillian in most cases) i need to utilize VSL Ensemble pro to access more RAM than Logic allows for but in regular tunes where i have one bass i can manage with Logics onboard RAM most of the time.
And in case RAM is really running low-the classic Trilogy and Bass Legends patches sound totally fab, even without round robin.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
well I not in smalls ville here, it's just that I don't want to load in "studio bass" and then it just crash because of too much ram.......
vista seems to be more of a pain with this.
Anyways, got to have those sounds, so I'll make due best I can!
vista seems to be more of a pain with this.
Anyways, got to have those sounds, so I'll make due best I can!
