A bit of an unnecessary stab at a fellow sound designer Lotuzia, don't you think?Lotuzia wrote: All our Soundbanks Audio Demos are made WITHOUT any further processing whether EQ or Comps on all outputs or external Delays, filters, filter banks. In a word they're different from Vengeance ones![]()
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Looking for a softsynth that has great presets and sits in the mix well
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- KVRist
- 291 posts since 30 Apr, 2005 from Amsterdam, The Netherlands
- KVRAF
- 2177 posts since 12 Nov, 2009
The Nexus Demos are made without any further processing, too. That's what the devs said at refx forums and since i have 10+ expansions, i can say: yeah, that's true.Bastiaan from Tone2.com wrote:A bit of an unnecessary stab at a fellow sound designer Lotuzia, don't you think?Lotuzia wrote: All our Soundbanks Audio Demos are made WITHOUT any further processing whether EQ or Comps on all outputs or external Delays, filters, filter banks. In a word they're different from Vengeance ones![]()
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Finally!
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- KVRAF
- 3441 posts since 15 Mar, 2003
Which is why I've largely lost interest in softsynths.eduardo_b wrote:The problem is that most presets are meant to showcase the synth and not play nicely with others or other instruments. You're going to have to tame these presets before they'll be mix friendly.ralphjarzombek wrote:Unfortunately I do not have much time to tweak instruments or play with trying to make a mix work by adding external effects, so I am looking for a softsynth that comes with great presets "out of the box" and the tracks sit in the mix well with each other. If the presets already have effects added to them which helps them sit well in the mix , that's OK; I just don't have the time to spend tweaking things.
They have made using them too much trouble.
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- KVRAF
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
Its your own and only personal interpretation that its a "bashing".Bastiaan from Tone2.com wrote:A bit of an unnecessary stab at a fellow sound designer Lotuzia, don't you think?Lotuzia wrote: All our Soundbanks Audio Demos are made WITHOUT any further processing whether EQ or Comps on all outputs or external Delays, filters, filter banks. In a word they're different from Vengeance ones![]()
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LtZ
We do things in our own way, and I wouldn't call this (beeing different) a "bashing" .....
Now ... If YOU think that Vengeance audio demos deserve your interpretation, and that they should be bashed for beeing very produced, maybe you could inform your 'fellow" Manuel from your Pov ?
Now as I'm used to your sarcastic comments every possible time I make a post I thank you for reading me so closely. I guess its an honor for me
And by the way we also have some nice presets for Gladiator on our site and .... they do sit well in a mix. You can consult our site for that my dear Bastiaan
Its a real distress to see that the Tone 2 forum will move away soon. I guess I'll have less often the intense pleasure to read your comments.
And btw they're are a lot of Sound Designers whose works I like, respect and appreciate . And among all these talented people only a few are friends. But ..... Its not enough to be a Sound Designer, even talented, to become a "fellow". There should be more than this .....
Your LtZ "fellow"
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- KVRAF
- 8519 posts since 7 Apr, 2003
the same as mettoz wrote:i would say nexus but what do i know.
this is nexus' strength. it's all done you just pick/play.
- KVRAF
- 18340 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I'd probably go for Cakewalk's Dimension Pro. Excellent patches, sits well in a mix and has a really wide rage of usable sounds. All the "bread and butter" is there. It's cousin Rapture is awesome to. Z3ta is great, but not what I'd call an "all rounder" though.
As other's mentioned Zebra 2 is fantastic and seems to do nice FM style sounds just as well as smooth analog style sounds and Howard's soundbanks are excellent.
I don't really look at instruments that way though. I see them as having distinct personalities (or not) So for instance, I'll go to Sawer when I want an aggressive sounding bass or lead, but then combine it with CS80v for a warm pad and maybe get something chimey from Octopus. That's the fun for me.
As other's mentioned Zebra 2 is fantastic and seems to do nice FM style sounds just as well as smooth analog style sounds and Howard's soundbanks are excellent.
I don't really look at instruments that way though. I see them as having distinct personalities (or not) So for instance, I'll go to Sawer when I want an aggressive sounding bass or lead, but then combine it with CS80v for a warm pad and maybe get something chimey from Octopus. That's the fun for me.
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- KVRist
- 178 posts since 22 May, 2008 from England
Nexus2 without doubt.
Plenty of high quality pre-sets ready to go.
Some of the recommendations made so far will not be what you asked for..IMO
Try the demos and see.
Plenty of high quality pre-sets ready to go.
Some of the recommendations made so far will not be what you asked for..IMO
Try the demos and see.
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- KVRAF
- 2424 posts since 9 Mar, 2004 from Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
My belief is that any synth with multiple filters or a built-in EQ section can make presets that sit well in a mix. Creative use of Band-Reject filters and using both LP and HP in series will carve out a ready-made spot for your sound nicely.
My pesonal choices:
SynthMaster 2.0 (4 filters, 2 EQ's)
Fabfilter Twin 2
Sylenth1
Predator (use 1 or more FX Filters in the effects section).
Albino 3
Zebra 2.5 (GOOD built-in EQ)
Scanned Synth Pro 2.0 (2 filters, BR/Notch as a selectable type and also Hi/Lo Shelving)
My pesonal choices:
SynthMaster 2.0 (4 filters, 2 EQ's)
Fabfilter Twin 2
Sylenth1
Predator (use 1 or more FX Filters in the effects section).
Albino 3
Zebra 2.5 (GOOD built-in EQ)
Scanned Synth Pro 2.0 (2 filters, BR/Notch as a selectable type and also Hi/Lo Shelving)
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- KVRian
- 1290 posts since 13 Mar, 2007
Allot of "demo synth selling " preset sounds hog the spectrum and the stereo field. Some synths are beloved as "go to" lead and others for pads or basses . If you want something thats mellow and smooth and silky , additive seems to do that well and a FM instrument will have great subset of smoother sounds to it ; but can also produce face melting cut too..Of course , Virtual analogs like minimonsta are good at powerfull ripping sounds to...sorry , there is'nt a nice little organizing principle that can be applied here
Predator is supposed to have a good glue fitting in a mix.
You'll have to find time to do some demos!!!
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Predator is supposed to have a good glue fitting in a mix.
You'll have to find time to do some demos!!!
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- KVRist
- 119 posts since 20 Jun, 2008 from Hultsfred Sweden
I agree that a genre-based reply would be most helpful... It all depends on what sound is preferred...
Any Rompler or all-round instrument would be ok I think (like Hypersonic 2 and the like).
Please tell what type of music you want to produce, and if the budget doesnt matter or what-not. Then it will be much easier to give advice, otherwise we are all shooting in the dark here...
Any Rompler or all-round instrument would be ok I think (like Hypersonic 2 and the like).
Please tell what type of music you want to produce, and if the budget doesnt matter or what-not. Then it will be much easier to give advice, otherwise we are all shooting in the dark here...
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- 6129 posts since 9 Oct, 2007 from an inharmonious society
I want a synth that creates the presets, and mixes the music of any genre for me, with the press of a button.
Can you help me
Seriously, I'd say Zebra because I like it, and it has...yadda yadda yadda.
Maybe what he/she might want to look into though, is
SugarBytes, Consequence or even Thesys.
http://www.sugar-bytes.de/content/download/demo/
Can you help me
Seriously, I'd say Zebra because I like it, and it has...yadda yadda yadda.
Maybe what he/she might want to look into though, is
SugarBytes, Consequence or even Thesys.
http://www.sugar-bytes.de/content/download/demo/
- KVRAF
- 3944 posts since 7 May, 2004 from behind his workbench
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- KVRist
- 291 posts since 30 Apr, 2005 from Amsterdam, The Netherlands
I didn't say you were 'bashing', I called it an unnecessary stab, quite a difference there my dear fellowLotuzia wrote:Its your own and only personal interpretation that its a "bashing".Bastiaan from Tone2.com wrote:A bit of an unnecessary stab at a fellow sound designer Lotuzia, don't you think?Lotuzia wrote: All our Soundbanks Audio Demos are made WITHOUT any further processing whether EQ or Comps on all outputs or external Delays, filters, filter banks. In a word they're different from Vengeance ones![]()
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In N-a-k-e-d T-r-u-t-h we believe !
LtZ
We do things in our own way, and I wouldn't call this (beeing different) a "bashing" .....
Glad I can be there for you. I replied twice to you this year by the way, not exactly what I would call 'reading me so closely'. Both times you promoted your own products and pat yourself on the back while putting a competing product down, but I guess that's doing things your way? ...oops there goes my sarcasm again, sorry.Now as I'm used to your sarcastic comments every possible time I make a post I thank you for reading me so closely. I guess its an honor for me![]()
Absolutely, I can recommend everyone to take a look at Lotuzia's products, qualitative products for a good price.And by the way we also have some nice presets for Gladiator on our site and .... they do sit well in a mix. You can consult our site for that my dear Bastiaan![]()
No need for distress, we're just moving and although 3rd party promotional posts are not allowed at the moment, you're still more then welcome to join and check my sarcastic ramblings every now and thenIts a real distress to see that the Tone 2 forum will move away soon. I guess I'll have less often the intense pleasure to read your comments.
Your LtZ "fellow"
My apologies to the OP for partly derailing the thread, Lotuzia, if you want we could take this to PM, although I'm sure most things has been said and discussed before already.
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- KVRian
- 1281 posts since 9 Mar, 2008 from netherlands
Bastiaan from Tone2.com wrote:I didn't say you were 'bashing', I called it an unnecessary stab, quite a difference there my dear fellowLotuzia wrote:Its your own and only personal interpretation that its a "bashing".Bastiaan from Tone2.com wrote:A bit of an unnecessary stab at a fellow sound designer Lotuzia, don't you think?Lotuzia wrote: All our Soundbanks Audio Demos are made WITHOUT any further processing whether EQ or Comps on all outputs or external Delays, filters, filter banks. In a word they're different from Vengeance ones![]()
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In N-a-k-e-d T-r-u-t-h we believe !
LtZ
We do things in our own way, and I wouldn't call this (beeing different) a "bashing" .....
Glad I can be there for you. I replied twice to you this year by the way, not exactly what I would call 'reading me so closely'. Both times you promoted your own products and pat yourself on the back while putting a competing product down, but I guess that's doing things your way? ...oops there goes my sarcasm again, sorry.Now as I'm used to your sarcastic comments every possible time I make a post I thank you for reading me so closely. I guess its an honor for me![]()
Absolutely, I can recommend everyone to take a look at Lotuzia's products, qualitative products for a good price.And by the way we also have some nice presets for Gladiator on our site and .... they do sit well in a mix. You can consult our site for that my dear Bastiaan![]()
No need for distress, we're just moving and although 3rd party promotional posts are not allowed at the moment, you're still more then welcome to join and check my sarcastic ramblings every now and thenIts a real distress to see that the Tone 2 forum will move away soon. I guess I'll have less often the intense pleasure to read your comments.
Your LtZ "fellow"
My apologies to the OP for partly derailing the thread, Lotuzia, if you want we could take this to PM, although I'm sure most things has been said and discussed before already.
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