Cubase 5.1.1 to be released middle December 2009

[Stomper]

From Version 4.5, it loads the waveform before playing the file, so you have to wait between 0.5 and 1 second for EACH file to play.

WOW
How do you manage to stay so patient every time?

[concealed identity]

From Version 4.5, it loads the waveform before playing the file, so you have to wait between 0.5 and 1 second for EACH file to play.

WOW
How do you manage to stay so patient every time?

Try browsing a folder with hundreds of drum hits while having to wait for a second to hear each one and see how patient you are. It's bad enough that a lot of people don't have the patience to use it, kinda like how I don't have the patience to deal with douchebags on the internet.

[visa tapani]

WOW
How do you manage to stay so patient every time?

What a stupid comment.

[visa tapani]

Things I'd like to see in the someday C6...
1) All editing (sample and audio and midi) done in the ONE main window

Why? Even on a laptop I prefer the multi-window approach coupled with workspaces over the single-window used in, say, Ableton Live.

1) Everything is in-line and therefore in cotext of the other tracks
2) No worries of "I can't do that in this window I have to switch to another window."
3) Workspace clutter of multiple windows opened.
4) Visual feedback on multi-track editing.
5) The dreaded window resizing problem.

Okay, 1&5 (which are essentially the same thing) I agree with. No 2&3 make no sense to me. As if I had to "worry" when pressing alt+1-9 to instantly switch between my pre-set workspaces where everything is laid out optimally on the screen, maximizing the screen estate needed for each task.

[Real Grooves Audio]

Personally I cant see myself being too concerned about future major upgrades for quite a while.
Cubase 5 has everything I need plus a lot more. Any new features in Cubase 6 would have to be pretty special to get me to give Steinberg more money especially considering Reaper (my 2nd choice) is rapidly closing the feature gap and costs nothing in comparison (even the pro license is far cheaper than Cubase).

Maintenance updates are always welcome of course.

I like Reaper a lot. I use it along with Cubase Studio 4 to track my tunes.

My only problem with Reaper, is that while it records real audio great, it handles MIDI poorly, and there are some vst plug-ins that simply won't work with it, even thought they work in Cubase. Also, the Lame Mp3 plug needed to export audio as mp3 files limits you to just a title. You end up having to use an outside editor to fill in any artist info, etc..

[hibidy]

And now the circle is complete

I'm all about retro these days

[Scotty]

Digital Performer 5 has got a background rendering feature which is getting rave reviews on the Mac side of the pond. Apparently it renders in a manner that is not noticeable during operation or editing but when you hit play , the cpu use is way down. If the reviews can be trusted it would be nice if the borg assimilated that piece of technology for version 6.

[yellowfever]

Try browsing a folder with hundreds of drum hits while having to wait for a second to hear each one and see how patient you are.

Here's a tip - use the media player on your C drive; you'll save about half a second each time

[dgkenney]

Things I'd like to see in the someday C6...
1) All editing (sample and audio and midi) done in the ONE main window

Why? Even on a laptop I prefer the multi-window approach coupled with workspaces over the single-window used in, say, Ableton Live.

1) Everything is in-line and therefore in cotext of the other tracks
2) No worries of "I can't do that in this window I have to switch to another window."
3) Workspace clutter of multiple windows opened.
4) Visual feedback on multi-track editing.
5) The dreaded window resizing problem.

Okay, 1&5 (which are essentially the same thing) I agree with. No 2&3 make no sense to me. As if I had to "worry" when pressing alt+1-9 to instantly switch between my pre-set workspaces where everything is laid out optimally on the screen, maximizing the screen estate needed for each task.

Not that it matters, but 1&5 are not even remotely the same thing (despite my misspelling of the word context). Your scheme may work well for you but I don't want to have to remember what I can do in the sample edit window versus the audio editor window versus the main window - I just want to do it.

Can I count on your support for number 4?

Dan

[hibidy]

"I'm workin as fast as I can captain, but there are too many people who are wrong on the internet!"

[concealed identity]

Try browsing a folder with hundreds of drum hits while having to wait for a second to hear each one and see how patient you are.

Here's a tip - use the media player on your C drive; you'll save about half a second each time

Sorry I'm confused, what media player are you talking about?

[Stomper]

From Version 4.5, it loads the waveform before playing the file, so you have to wait between 0.5 and 1 second for EACH file to play.

WOW
How do you manage to stay so patient every time?

Try browsing a folder with hundreds of drum hits while having to wait for a second to hear each one and see how patient you are. It's bad enough that a lot of people don't have the patience to use it, kinda like how I don't have the patience to deal with douchebags on the internet.

Sorry if you got it wrong. it was only a joke.
i rarely use samples, but when i do, its a particular sound that i usually know where it is in my very small sample library.
so i cant share your frustration on half of a second to play a sample.

[concealed identity]

From Version 4.5, it loads the waveform before playing the file, so you have to wait between 0.5 and 1 second for EACH file to play.

WOW
How do you manage to stay so patient every time?

Try browsing a folder with hundreds of drum hits while having to wait for a second to hear each one and see how patient you are. It's bad enough that a lot of people don't have the patience to use it, kinda like how I don't have the patience to deal with douchebags on the internet.

Sorry if you got it wrong. it was only a joke.
i rarely use samples, but when i do, its a particular sound that i usually know where it is in my very small sample library.
so i cant share your frustration on half of a second to play a sample.

Ah sorry, my apologies then, the comment just sounded really snarkey to me. But if you browse a folder full of samples and have to wait for a second between each one, you'll definitely see how frustrating it is, especially when every other program (including Cubase) has the ability to play a file instantaneously (and it even worked in Mediabay previously).

[visa tapani]

Things I'd like to see in the someday C6...
1) All editing (sample and audio and midi) done in the ONE main window
[...]
1) Everything is in-line and therefore in cotext of the other tracks
2) No worries of "I can't do that in this window I have to switch to another window."
3) Workspace clutter of multiple windows opened.
4) Visual feedback on multi-track editing.
5) The dreaded window resizing problem.

Okay, 1&5 (which are essentially the same thing) I agree with. No 2&3 make no sense to me. As if I had to "worry" when pressing alt+1-9 to instantly switch between my pre-set workspaces where everything is laid out optimally on the screen, maximizing the screen estate needed for each task.

Not that it matters, but 1&5 are not even remotely the same thing (despite my misspelling of the word context). Your scheme may work well for you but I don't want to have to remember what I can do in the sample edit window versus the audio editor window versus the main window - I just want to do it.

Can I count on your support for number 4?

Oh yeah, 1&5 obviously have nothing to do with each other Typo, meant 1&4. If I've understood you right, these are pretty much the same, aren't they? In-line midi-editing I suppose is satisfactory already, but there's no inline audio-editing. However, since the most common audio editing tasks of cutting and crossfading etc can be done on the main windown, I rarely feel the need to go into the actual audio editor actually. In what kind of situations would you need inline audio-editing?

I think for me the 2 most important feature requests are:
1.) Comprehensive and effortless midi cc (and automation) routing à la Live. So that I could easily route a knob from my controller to control the volume of a synthesizer, inversely the wet-dry-knob of a reverb and the cut-off point of a high-shelf filter. Or route midi-LFO's wherever I want in a straightforward manner (it's a PITA now I think). Or send midi cc from one plugin to wherever.
2.) Bezier curves for automation.

[dgkenney]

I think for me the 2 most important feature requests are:
1.) Comprehensive and effortless midi cc (and automation) routing à la Live. So that I could easily route a knob from my controller to control the volume of a synthesizer, inversely the wet-dry-knob of a reverb and the cut-off point of a high-shelf filter. Or route midi-LFO's wherever I want in a straightforward manner (it's a PITA now I think). Or send midi cc from one plugin to wherever.
2.) Bezier curves for automation.

I have little to no use for either of these, but in the spirit of cooperation, I am all for them.

In answer to 1&4 being the same - yes and no. For #1 I was thinking of warping and pocketing a vocal or series of BGvocals for example or fine tuning a bass and kick. #5 was more about timing corrections for a grouped multi-track drum session. Both can be done, but for my money, easier in the one window motif.

Dan