KVR Audio

riley4reason · Post by **riley4reason** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:02 am

Can you buy it yet!?

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:10 am

I can if you'll lend me the cash

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:45 am

Looks like something ratehr strange has happened to the Cycling74 domain. Looks like they've either relocated/renamed without any prior warning or its been hijacked!

redirects here:

http://veryhandso.me/

I certainly aint logging in till I know WTF is going on.

risome · Post by **risome** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:07 am

It will be available from ableton i would think rather than cycling 74

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:32 am

whyterabbyt wrote:Looks like something ratehr strange has happened to the Cycling74 domain. Looks like they've either relocated/renamed without any prior warning or its been hijacked!

redirects here:

http://veryhandso.me/

I certainly aint logging in till I know WTF is going on.

It didn't redirect for me, but it certainly looks different. Still a cycling74 site though, at least by appearance.

Would be a very sucky time to get hacked, eh?

Even if you were joking around, it still does look different.

Brent

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:34 am

risome wrote:It will be available from ableton i would think rather than cycling 74

Currently, to get the beta to work in Live, you also need C74's current beta version of MAX/MSP; Ableton provide the 'editing bridge' and the M4L 'plugins', C74 provide the editing environment and documentation et.c.

Unless there are going to be two different installations of the MAX/MSP environment, I would assume they'd continue to do it that way. Otherwise you'll have potential version disparities, and redundancy problems for people using both the standalone and M4L.

Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:36 am

risome wrote:It will be available from ableton i would think rather than cycling 74

That's right - Cycling 74 says it will be sold by Ableton. No weird redirect here in London - maybe some weird DNS thing going on with a local ISP rather than Cycling 74?

EDIT: Google finds Cycling 74 content on the veryhandso.me domain: http://www.google.com/search?rls=en&q=v ... 8&oe=UTF-8
Possibly a staging domain for the main site as the sign-up page you get (well I would get if Safari didn't object to the redirects) is a typical WordPress script.

No change to the Abes' shop, however.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:37 am

koolkeys wrote:It didn't redirect for me, but it certainly looks different. Still a cycling74 site though, at least by appearance.

Would be a very sucky time to get hacked, eh?

Even if you were joking around, it still does look different.

Brent

well, its stopped now; new look, right URL. server config issues, maybe. first page I got when it took me there the first time was a login/registration page, which was suspicious to me; classic phishing style.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:40 am

Gamma-UT wrote:maybe some weird DNS thing going on with a local ISP rather than Cycling 74?

My 'local ISP' is a Regional Network Operator on the JANET backbone

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:41 am

Hmmm, strange. Maybe just an admin page that was coming up while they were trading out pages or something? Hard to say.

I will say that since rechecking the thread the other day(where I incorrectly assumed that some of Max would be left out), I'm more interested in it and have been messing with the beta. This really is going to be a big deal, and despite the extra cost, will no doubt add infinite value to Live for those who have it. It would be cool if there was a "player only" version that cost less, but no complaints from me.

Brent

Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:43 am

whyterabbyt wrote:
Gamma-UT wrote:maybe some weird DNS thing going on with a local ISP rather than Cycling 74?
My 'local ISP' is a Regional Network Operator on the JANET backbone

Good target for DNS cache poisoning then

But nothing so sinister by the looks of it: more likely a Wordpress installation that went a bit screwy for a while. So, if they didn't get hacked before, they can enjoy the thrill of a script kiddie having a go at it now.

dbrane · Post by **dbrane** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:28 am

From my old bookmarks I still get redirected, e.g. to http://veryhandso.me/forums/. The forums look nice now though

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:32 am

FWIW, according to Cycling74:

For users who only own Max for Live, the Max application will have the following limitations:
no built in support for audio and MIDI (Live is used for audio and MIDI I/O)
restrictions on seeing Jitter images in the Max application (Jitter is fully functional inside Live)
no ability to build standalone applications

Nothing too unexpected there, but it answers the question of what is different.

Also, they comment that there may be plans to allow people to commercially distribute their Max devices without the public being able to open them. They say they will make announcements in 2010 related to that. Could be interesting, I guess. Maybe not.

Brent

Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:07 pm

M4L is now available in the Abes' shop.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:09 pm

Hmmm, does anyone know anything about this "Max 5.1 runtime" that is supposed to be released soon? It specifically says that it is NOT a M4L runtime.

Is this just what is needed to run general Max applications outside of Max? I guess I've never paid attention to anything but the Pluggo runtime, so this may be my ignorance speaking.

Brent

Max for Live, it's the 23rd in Germany!